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Date:	Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:02:31 +0200
From:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
To:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>
Cc:	Andreas Dilger <adilger@....com>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@...hat.com>,
	Christian Fischer <Christian.Fischer@...terngraphics.com>,
	linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Enable asynchronous commits by default patch revoked?

> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 05:43:36PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > Without transaction checksums waiting on all of the blocks together
> > is NOT safe.  If the commit record is on disk, but the rest of the
> > transaction's blocks are not then during replay it may cause garbage
> > to be written from the journal into the filesystem metadata.
> 
> Yes, I *said* that we can only wait on all of the blocks together with
> the commit record when doing journal checksums.  Sorry if I didn't
> make that clear enough.
  I suppose we talk about the case when write caches are turned off and
we use barrier=0 (because case barrier=1 does not really care about when
we wait for the blocks from the correctness POV - at least according to
Documentation/block/barrier.txt). In that case, you have to wait for
*data* blocks before writing the commit block because you have no
checksumming of those...

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
SuSE CR Labs
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