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Date:	Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:17:58 -0400
From:	Ted Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
To:	Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@...b.net>
Cc:	linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Crash after umount'ing a disconnected disk (Re: extfs
 reliability)

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:29:59PM +0400, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> >Have you had a chance to check out whether this patch solves the
> >problem you were complaining with respect to yanking out the last
> >iSCSI or FC link to a hard drive, and then umounting the disk
> >afterwards?
> 
> Looks like it works. I was able to reach that branch (see AAA in the
> attached log) and it was handled well.

OK, great!

> I've also got other (see the attached log file):
> 
> 1. A bunch of detected hung tasks with call traces.
> 

Is this unique to ext4?  It looks like a problem where we're either
(a) not getting an I/O error from the block device in time before we
get the hung task timeout (which might be the right thing, if the link
eventually comes back --- what I've seen is there's a no clear
consensus how long the last FC or iSCSI link should be done before we
give up on an I/O operation), or (b) for some reason we're not
noticing the I/O error and waiting forever.  I believe (a) is more
likely here, but it's possible it's (b).  Do you eventually get file
system I/O errors that abort the journal transaction?  You should...

> 2. "JBD: recovery failed" I reported before.

I've searched my mail archives, and I'm not sure what you're talking
about here.  Maybe this was in an e-mail that you sent that perhaps
got lost?

						- Ted
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