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Date:	Sun, 19 Dec 2010 11:53:09 -0500 (EST)
From:	Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@...idpixels.com>
To:	Sandon Van Ness <sandon@...-ness.com>
cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org,
	Alan Piszcz <ap@...arrain.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...deen.net>
Subject: Re: Is EXT4 the right FS for > 16TB?

Hi,

Wow, there were no updates though after Eric's last comment..
Eric, have there been any improvements in the past 6 months?

Or should one still steer clear from EXT4 > 16TB?

Justin.

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Sandon Van Ness wrote:

> Was it me (houkouonchi) on hard forum? I asked if > 16 TiB support was
> considered stable on here a while back:
>
> Is >16TB support considered stable?
>
> This was 6 months ago so maybe things have changed. The thread:
>
> http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-ext4/2010/5/28/6884603/thread
>
> Luckily JFS fixed there userland utilities bug of not being able to
> handle > 32TiB very shortly after this and I ended up going that route
> and I have yet to have any data loss or problems on my JFS volume:
>
> root@...abutsu: 08:32 AM :~# df -H /data
> Filesystem             Size   Used  Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sdd1               36T    22T    15T  61% /data
> root@...abutsu: 08:32 AM :~#
>
> At work with our hundreds/thousands of servers we will likely be going
> ext4 as we wont be using it on >16 TiB. I think its a huge improvement
> over ext3 but for my use JFS ended up being a better fit. I
> refuse/refused to go XFS.
>
> On 12/19/2010 03:52 AM, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've read a lot of posts regarding people who setup RAID volumes of
>> and up to around 16TB and EXT4 is typically used.
>>
>> However, in various forums, people still ask what is the correct
>> filesystem for > 16TB?  I did read one post somewhere that stated the
>> ext4 developers did not recommend using ext4 for very large volumes,
>> is this still true?
>>
>> I am looking at creating a 43TB volume possibly in the near future and
>> I have used XFS in the past, which works well and would probably not
>> have any problem with it; however, I have bitten quite a number of
>> times by XFS bugs in the past several years, so I was curious, how
>> does EXT4 perform on larger volumes, e.g., 20TB?
>>
>> Are there any caveats / problems?
>>
>> Justin.
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