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Date:	Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:42:00 -0600
From:	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...hat.com>
To:	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>
CC:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
	ext4 development <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] jbd: don't wake kjournald unnecessarily

On 12/21/12 11:46 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:01:58AM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>>> I'm also really puzzled about how Eric's patch makes a 10% different
>>> on the AIM7 benchmark; as you've pointed out, that will just cause an
>>> extra wakeup of the jbd/jbd2 thread, which should then quickly check
>>> and decide to go back to sleep.
>>
>> Ted, just to double check - is that some wondering aloud, or a NAK
>> of the original patch? :)
> 
> I'm still thinking....  Things that I don't understand worry me, since
> there's a possibility there's more going on than we think.
> 
> Did you have a chance to have your perf people enable the the
> jbd2_run_stats tracepoint, to see how the stats change with and
> without the patch?

No tracepoint yet, but here's some data from the jbd2 info proc file
for a whole AIM7 run, averaged over all devices.

Prior to d9b0193 jbd: fix fsync() tid wraparound bug went in:

3387.93 transaction, each up to 8192 blocks
average:
102.661ms waiting for transaction
189ms running transaction
65.375ms transaction was being locked
17.8393ms flushing data (in ordered mode)
164.518ms logging transaction
3694.29us average transaction commit time
2090.05 handles per transaction
12.5893 blocks per transaction
13.5893 logged blocks per transaction

with d9b0193 in place, the benchmark was about 10% slower:

2857.96 transaction, each up to 8192 blocks
average:
108.482ms waiting for transaction
266.286ms running transaction
71.625ms transaction was being locked
2.76786ms flushing data (in ordered mode)
252.625ms logging transaction
5932.82us average transaction commit time
2551.21 handles per transaction
43.25 blocks per transaction
44.25 logged blocks per transaction

and with my wake changes:

3775.61 transaction, each up to 8192 blocks
average:
92.9286ms waiting for transaction
173.571ms running transaction
60.3036ms transaction was being locked
16.6964ms flushing data (in ordered mode)
149.464ms logging transaction
3849.07us average transaction commit time
1924.84 handles per transaction
13.3036 blocks per transaction
14.3036 logged blocks per transaction

TBH though, this is somewhat opposite of what I'd expect; I thought more wakes might mean smaller transactions - except the wakes were "pointless" - so I'm not quite sure what's going on yet.  We can certainly see the difference, though, and that my change gets us back to the prior behavior.

-Eric
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