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Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 07:28:29 -0700 From: Richard Sharpe <realrichardsharpe@...il.com> To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> Cc: Steve French <smfrench@...il.com>, David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>, linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-afs@...r.kernel.org, "linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org>, samba-technical <samba-technical@...ts.samba.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>, Deepa Dinamani <deepa.kernel@...il.com> Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/6] Enhanced file stat system call On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:09 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> wrote: > On Thursday 05 May 2016 21:00:18 Steve French wrote: >> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Steve French <smfrench@...il.com> wrote: >> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> wrote: >> >> On Friday 29 April 2016 13:57:36 David Howells wrote: >> >>> struct statx *buffer); >> >>> >> >>> This is an enhanced file stat function that provides a number of useful >> >>> features, in summary: >> >>> >> >>> (1) More information: creation time, data version number, inode >> >>> generation >> >>> number and flags. A subset of these is available through a number of >> >>> filesystems (such as CIFS, NFS, AFS, Ext4 and BTRFS). >> >>> >> >> >> >> I have a question about birthtime/creationtime: As we are gaining a way >> >> to read this, should we also provide a way to update it using a new >> >> variant >> >> of the utimensat syscall in order to have 'cp -a' create an identical >> >> copy, >> >> or is the idea that this is defined as the time that is particular copy >> >> of the inode was created? >> >> >> >> I've discussed this with Deepa in the past, as she is driving the >> >> convertion of the inode timestamps to timespec64 now, and we will >> >> need a new version of utimensat for her work as well. I can see good >> >> reasons either way (allowing updates of btime or disallowing them). >> > >> It would help interop with Windows (and presumably Mac) if birth time can be >> updated > > Ok, thanks. That is certainly a good reason in favor. > > If nothing else comes up, I guess we can prepare a patch for a new > utimensat variant to do this and wait for more comments on that. > > Arnd Isn't there also a strong case for a setattr call that allows us to atomically set a collection of attributes from userspace? It would seem that network file systems (the clients) could use such features. -- Regards, Richard Sharpe (何以解憂?唯有杜康。--曹操) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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