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Date:   Wed, 1 Mar 2017 07:02:13 +0300
From:   Alexey Lyashkov <alexey.lyashkov@...il.com>
To:     Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca>
Cc:     Artem Blagodarenko <artem.blagodarenko@...il.com>,
        linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libext2fs: readahead for meta_bg


> 1 марта 2017 г., в 5:50, Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca> написал(а):
> 
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 7:19 PM, Alexey Lyashkov <alexey.lyashkov@...il.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Andreas,
>> 
>> we have do it first. But patch was much and much complex due checksums handling in code.
>> and ext2_flush() will be need to read an all GD in memory to as use a flat array to write a GD to the disk.
> 
> Yes, I saw ext2_flush() was accessing the array directly, and would have a
> problem as you describe.  One option would be to skip writing uninitialized
> GDT blocks, but that also becomes more complex to get correct.
checking agains a inode bitmap block number is enough, to see is GD read from disk or not.

> 
>> If you want we have submit it also, but it have no benefits (like a few seconds), against it simple version.
> 
> I guess a large part of your speedup is because of submitting the GDT reads
> in parallel to a disk array.  If the GDT blocks are all mapped to a single
> disk in the array (entirely possible with META_BG, depending on array geometry)
> then the prefetch will have minimal benefits.
yes and no. it will have a benefits because avoid a delay between sending a new requests so io scheduler may optimize it better.
from other view - we have additional delay between submit and access due processing a previously request, while IO subsystem may work in this time.
Both these cases will provide a good benefit.
But again - I may ask an Artem submit a patch to read GD by demand as it ready again, but it don’t like it due a complexity.


> 
> Another option would be to change debugfs/tune2fs/dumpe2fs to use the
> EXT2_FLAG_SUPER_ONLY flag to only read the superblock on open if the
> requested operations do not need access to the group descriptors at all?
> For a large filesystem as you describe, 37K GDT blocks is still over 144MB
> of data that needs to be read from disk, vs 4KB for the superblock.

It not an option. If we talk about lustre - debugfs uses to mount data copy from raid to local disk to parse.
It mean we need a GD covers directory inode in memory and full inode read to have an checks passed.
I tries it also, but it need to disable a checks inside of libe2fs.

> 
> Cheers, Andreas
> 
>>> 1 марта 2017 г., в 3:10, Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca> написал(а):
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 3:03 AM, Artem Blagodarenko <artem.blagodarenko@...il.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Alexey Lyashkov <alexey.lyashkov@...gate.com>
>>>> 
>>>> There are ~37k of random IOs with meta_bg option on 300T target.
>>>> Debugfs requires 20 minutes to be started. Enabling readahead for
>>>> group blocks metadata save time dramatically. Only 12s to start.
>>>> 
>>>> Signed-off-by: Alexey Lyashkov <alexey.lyashkov@...gate.com>
>>> 
>>> This patch looks good by itself.
>>> 
>>> Reviewed-by: Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca>
>>> ----
>>> 
>>> On a related note, I've been wondering if it would make sense to have
>>> a second patch that *only* does the readahead of the group descriptor blocks
>>> in ext2fs_open2(), and move io_channel_read_blk64() to ext2fs_group_desc()
>>> when the group descriptor blocks are actually accessed the first time?  This
>>> would allow tools like tune2fs, debugfs, dumpe2fs, etc. that may not access
>>> group descriptors to load _much_ faster than if it loads all of the bitmaps
>>> synchronously at filesystem open time.  Even if they _do_ access the GDT it
>>> will at least allow the prefetch more time to run in the background, and the
>>> GDT swabbing happen incrementally upon access rather than all at the start.
>>> 
>>> A quick look through lib/ext2fs looks like ext2fs_group_desc() is used for
>>> the majority of group descriptor accesses, but there are a few places that
>>> access fs->group_desc directly.  The ext2fs_group_desc() code could check
>>> whether the group descriptor is all-zero (ext2fs_open2() should be changed
>>> to use ext2fs_get_array_zero(..., &fs->group_desc)) and if so read the whole
>>> descriptor block into the array and optionally swab it.
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Andreas
>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> lib/ext2fs/openfs.c |    6 ++++++
>>>> 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>>>> 
>>>> diff --git a/lib/ext2fs/openfs.c b/lib/ext2fs/openfs.c
>>>> index ba501e6..f158b0a 100644
>>>> --- a/lib/ext2fs/openfs.c
>>>> +++ b/lib/ext2fs/openfs.c
>>>> @@ -399,6 +399,12 @@ errcode_t ext2fs_open2(const char *name, const char *io_options,
>>>> #endif
>>>> 		dest += fs->blocksize*first_meta_bg;
>>>> 	}
>>>> +
>>>> +	for (i = first_meta_bg ; i < fs->desc_blocks; i++) {
>>>> +		blk = ext2fs_descriptor_block_loc2(fs, group_block, i);
>>>> +		io_channel_cache_readahead(fs->io, blk, 1);
>>>> +	}
>>>> +
>>>> 	for (i=first_meta_bg ; i < fs->desc_blocks; i++) {
>>>> 		blk = ext2fs_descriptor_block_loc2(fs, group_block, i);
>>>> 		retval = io_channel_read_blk64(fs->io, blk, 1, dest);
>>>> --
>>>> 1.7.1
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Andreas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Andreas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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