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Date:	Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:55:58 -0700
From:	"Hua Zhong" <hzhong@...il.com>
To:	"'Pavel Machek'" <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	"'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	"'Bill Davidsen'" <davidsen@....com>,
	"'Kernel Mailing List'" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: suspend2 merge history [was Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion]

> > Suspend2 patch is open source. You can always take a look.
> 
> swsusp is open source. You can always take a look. And you 
> can always submit a patch.
> 
> > Moreover, if someone claims suspend2 isn't ready for merge, or the
> 
> Moreover, if someone claims swsusp is broken, they should 
> attach bugzilla id.

Pavel,

You can't blame me for not doing these things, because I am not a maintainer.
However, you are, and you defend yourself so hard for that position, so if _you_ 
don't do these things, people complain.

> As you said, you do not know what you are talking about.
>
> He claims s-t-ram is easier than s-t-disk. That means that he did not do his 
> homework, and did not check the archives on the subject.

Oh yeah? Let's check the archives:

"I seriously claim that STR _should_ be a lot simpler than suspend-to-disk, 
because it avoids all the memory management problems. The reason that 
we support suspend-to-disk but not STR is totally perverse - it's simply that
it has been easier to debug, because unlike STR, we can do a "real boot" 
into a working system, and thus we don't have the debugging problems that
the "easy" suspend/resume case has."

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.power-management.general/1884/focus=2105

Maybe it's why he didn't like the STR design you had?

Maybe I am still wrong, maybe Linus is wrong too, but you can't attack me
not doing my homework.

Hua

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