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Date:	Mon, 2 Oct 2006 02:50:05 -0400
From:	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@....com>
To:	Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@...izon.net>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ext3 corruption

On Oct 01, 2006, at 23:24:48, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 01 October 2006 22:40, Molle Bestefich wrote:
>> To reiterate:
>> The distro halt script tries "umount -f" three times, which all  
>> fail with
>> "Device or resource busy".
>
> Me too.
> I'm getting those messages from the NFS stuff at shutdown time,  
> with NO NFS
> shares active.  I have had them for years.  But the reboot goes on
> eventually, and apparently without harm.

What causes problems on _all_ of my softraid boxes is that without a  
whole bunch of pivot_root magic in the shutdown code to switch to a  
tmpfs and unmount my lvm-on-md-on-sata stuff, it's impossible to get  
the kernel to stop devices cleanly.  I get all sorts of messages from  
the kernel about trying to stop MD devices and not being able to  
_after_ reboot is called, even though at that point it should just  
forcibly kill all userspace, unmount all filesystems, and deconstruct  
the MD/DM device tree.  I see no reason why a successful shutdown or  
reboot call should _ever_ leave the disks in an inconsistent state.

Cheers,
Kyle Moffett

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