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Date:	Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:14:41 +0100
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	David Chinner <dgc@....com>
Cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...pend2.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 0/2] Use freezeable workqueues to avoid suspend-related XFS corruptions

On Fri 2006-11-17 11:50:52, David Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 09:12:49AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > The following two patches introduce a mechanism that should allow us to
> > avoid suspend-related corruptions of XFS without the freezing of bdevs which
> > Pavel considers as too invasive (apart from this, the freezing of bdevs may
> > lead to some undesirable interactions with dm and for now it seems to be
> > supported for real by XFS only).
> 
> Has this been tested and proven to fix the problem with XFS? It's
> been asserted that this will fix XFS and suspend, but it's
> not yet been proven that this is even the problem.
> 
> I think the problem is a race between sys_sync, the kernel thread
> freeze and the xfsbufd flushing async, delayed write metadata
> buffers resulting in a inconsistent suspend image being created.
> If this is the case, then freezing the workqueues does not
> fix the problem. i.e:
> 
> suspend				xfs
> -------				---
> sys_sync completes
> 				xfsbufd flushes delwri metadata
> kernel thread freeze
> workqueue freeze
> suspend image start
> 				async I/O starts to complete
> suspend image finishes
> 				async I/O all complete

This can't happen, because creating suspend image is atomic. (No
interrupts, no DMAs, no drivers running).
									Pavel
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