linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/16] LTTng 0.6.36 for 2.6.18 : Linux Kernel Markers

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Date:	Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:40:36 +0000
From:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
To:	Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@...stal.dyndns.org>
Cc:	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Tom Zanussi <zanussi@...ibm.com>,
	Karim Yaghmour <karim@...rsys.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@...ux-sh.org>, Jes Sorensen <jes@....com>,
	Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@...ibm.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@...igh.org>,
	Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@...ymtl.ca>,
	Douglas Niehaus <niehaus@...s.ku.edu>, ltt-dev@...fik.org,
	systemtap@...rces.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/16] LTTng 0.6.36 for 2.6.18 : Linux Kernel Markers

On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 09:33:50PM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Frank Ch. Eigler (fche@...hat.com) wrote:
> > One question:
> > 
> > > [...]
> > > +	/* Markers in modules. */ 
> > > +	list_for_each_entry(mod, &modules, list) {
> > > +		if (mod->license_gplok)
> > > +			found += marker_set_probe_range(name, format, probe,
> > > +				mod->markers, mod->markers+mod->num_markers);
> > > +	}
> > > [...]
> > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL(marker_set_probe);
> > 
> > Are you sure the license_gplok check is necessary here?  We should
> > consider encouraging non-gpl module writers to instrument their code,
> > to give users a slightly better chance of debugging problems.
> > 
> 
> Hi Frank,
> 
> I was kind of expecting this question. Well, it turns out that my markers module
> modifies the struct module in module.h to add a few fields. Some drivers that I
> won't name (ok, ok I will : clearcase) have the funny habit of distributing
> their kernel modules as ".ko" files instead of sending a proper ".o" and later
> link it against a wrapper.
> 
> The result is, I must say, quite bad : when I want to add a probe, I iterate on
> each modules, verifying if there are any markers in the object. Things gets
> really messy when the structure is corrupted.
> 
> The simplest way to work around this non-GPL problem is to completely disable
> access to the marker infrastructure to non-GPL modules. I am not against
> instrumentation of binary-only modules, but I don't think it is kernel
> developer's job to support their broken binary blob distribution.
> 
> I thought that we might use the crc checksum as another criterion. As long as
> the machines do not crash when adding markers when such modules are loaded.

Please don't add hacks like that for non-GPL modules.  But neither
should we export any tracing functionality for them.  They;re not the
kind of people we want to help at all, and Frank just shows once again that
he should rather stay away from kernel stuff and keep on writing C++.
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