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Date:	Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:11:28 +0300
From:	Al Boldi <a1426z@...ab.com>
To:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Postgrey experiment at VGER

Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 11:25 +0200, Dumitru Ciobarcianu wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 01:50 +0200, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> > > I do already see spammers smart enough to retry addresses from
> > > the zombie machine, but that share is now below 10% of all emails.
> > > My prediction for next 200 days is that most spammers get the clue,
> > > but it gives us perhaps 3 months of less leaked junk.

Great!

> > IMHO this is only an step in an "arms race".
> > What you will do in three months, remove this check because it will
> > prove useless since the spammers will also retry ? If yes, why install
> > it in the first place ?
>
> Why ever do anything? You're going to die eventually anyway...

Right!  The problem here is that it may do more harm than good.

May I suggest a smarter way to filter these spammers, by just whitelisting 
email addresses of valid posters, after sending a confirmation for the first 
post.  Now if these spammers get smart, and start using personal email 
addresses, I would certainly expect some real action by abused email address 
owners.


Thanks!

--
Al

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