Date:	Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:59:18 +0200
From:	"saeed bishara" <saeed.bishara@...il.com>
To:	"Jens Axboe" <jens.axboe@...cle.com>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: using splice/vmsplice to improve file receive performance

On 12/22/06, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 22 2006, saeed bishara wrote:
> > On 12/22/06, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com> wrote:
> > >On Thu, Dec 21 2006, saeed bishara wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >> I'm trying to use the splice/vmsplice system calls to improve the
> > >> samba server write throughput, but before touching the smbd, I started
> > >> to improve the ttcp tool since it simple and has the same flow. I'm
> > >> expecting to avoid the "copy_from_user" path when using those
> > >> syscalls.
> > >> so far, I couldn't make any improvement, actually the throughput get
> > >> worst. the new receive flow looks like this (code also attached):
> > >> 1. read tcp packet (64 pages) to page aligned buffer.
> > >> 2. vmsplice the buffer to pipe with SPLICE_F_MOVE.
> > >> 3. splice the pipe to the file, also with SPLICE_F_MOVE.
> > >>
> > >> the strace shows that the splice takes a lot of time. also when
> > >> profiling the kernel, I found that the memcpy() called to often !!
> > >
> > >(didn't see this until now, axboe@...e.de doesn't work anymore)
> > >
> > >I'm assuming that you mean you vmsplice with SPLICE_F_GIFT, to hand
> > >ownership of the pages to the kernel (in which case SPLICE_F_MOVE will
> > >work, otherwise you get a copy)? If not, that'll surely cost you a data
> > >copy
> >   I'll try the vmplice with SPLICE_F_GIFT and splice with MOVE. btw,
> > I noticed that the  splice system call takes the bulk of the time,
> > does it mean anything?
>
> Hard to say without seeing some numbers :-)
I'm out of the office, I'll send it later. btw, my test bed ( the
receiver side ) is arm9. does it matter?
>
> > >This sounds remarkably like a recent thread on lkml, you may want to
> > >read up on that. Basically using splice for network receive is a bit of
> > >a work-around now, since you do need the one copy and then vmsplice that
> > >into a pipe. To realize the full potential of splice, we first need
> > >socket receive support so you can skip that step (splice from socket to
> > >pipe, splice pipe to file).
> > Ashwini Kulkarni posted patches that implements that, see
> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/9/20/272 .  is that right?
> > >
> > >There was no test code attached, btw.
> > sorry, here it is.
> > can you please add sample application to your test tools (splice,fio
> > ,,) that demonstrates my flow; socket to file using read & vmsplice?
>
> I didn't add such an example, since I had hoped that we would have
> splice from socket support sooner rather than later. But I can do so, of
> course.
do you any preliminary patches? I can start playing with it.
>
> I'll try your test. One thing that sticks out initially is that you
> should be using full pages, the splice pipe will not merge page
> segments. So don't use a buflen less than the page size.
yes, actually I  run the ttcp with -l65536 ( 64KB ), and the buffer is
always page aligned.also, the splice/vmsplice with MOVE or GIFT will
fail if the buffer is not a whole pages. am I rigth?

>
> --
> Jens Axboe
>
>
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