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Date:	Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:30:47 -0800
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Roman Zippel <zippel@...ux-m68k.org>,
	Oleg Verych <olecom@...wer.upol.cz>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>, sam@...nborg.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kai Germaschewski <kai@...maschewski.name>
Subject: Re: [patch, fix build regression] kbuild: Kbuild.include avoid
 using spaces in call arguments

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 15:52:54 -0800 (PST) Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Roman Zippel wrote:
> > 
> > Sorry, it needs more changes, the patch simply wasn't ready.
> 
> One problem I find very problematic with all the Kbuild setup is that 
> people tend to be very quiet about any build issues until they simply go 
> in.
> 
> Things don't "get ready" on their own. In other areas, people comment on 
> why they don't like patches. In Kbuild, for some reason, we often seem to 
> have this situation where people don't react at all.
> 
> Sam is great about maintaining the kernel build stuff most of the time, 
> but because it's clearly a "secondary" thing, there tends to be some 
> periods when nothing happens. Which is problematic for me..
> 
> So I end up in a situation where I just basically will apply the patches 
> just becauseif I don't, nothing ever happens. The good news is that _once_ 
> I apply them, people will usually notice problems and send in fixes fairly 
> quickly. But this particular email was NOT useful, for example.  "needs 
> more changes" is the epitome of a "not useful" comment.

Yes, kbuild is a bit of a problem at present.

I'm sitting on these:

search-a-little-harder-for-mkimage.patch
make-mkcompile_h-use-lang=c-and-lc_all=c-for-cc-v.patch
add-mailmap-for-proper-git-shortlog-output.patch
qconf-immediately-update-integer-and-string-values-in-xconfig-display-take-2.patch
qconf-relocate-search-command.patch
qconf-fix-showing-help-info-on-failed-search.patch
qconf-back-button-behaviour-normalization.patch
kbuild-remove-references-to-deprecated-prepare-all-target.patch
new-toplevel-target-headers_check_all.patch

But I'm not sure that anyone has reviewed them much.

I'll probably just push 'em and see what happens.  They seem to work.
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