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Date:	Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:36:35 +0300
From:	Samium Gromoff <_deepfire@...lingofgreen.ru>
To:	Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de>
Cc:	Alan <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Samium Gromoff <_deepfire@...lingofgreen.ru>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu,
	David Wagner <daw@...berkeley.edu>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Undo some of the pseudo-security madness

At Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:51:20 +0100,
Florian Weimer wrote:
> 
> > Randomisation has nothing to do with C. In fact from a C perspective the
> > compiler and linker do a lot of work to deal with ELF and loading code at
> > arbitary addresses for dynamic linking and the like, not the user and
> > not as language constructs. Perhaps the Lisp universe should wake up and
> > meet the 1980s 8)
> 
> Uhm, C++ folks and others have run into loader performance issues due
> to the way DSOs are handled.  The problem is more severe in the lisp
> context because a typical image contains hundreds of thousands of
> small objects on startup.

Well:

root@...elheise:/mnt/shared/video1 # cat /proc/`pgrep sbcl | head -n1`/maps | wc -l
1378

regards, Samium Gromoff
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