linux-kernel - Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, "Threadlets", generic AIO support, v3

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Date:	Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:41:24 +0300
From:	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@....mipt.ru>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Davide Libenzi <davidel@...ilserver.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@....com.au>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...hat.com>,
	Zach Brown <zach.brown@...cle.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@...ibm.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, "Threadlets", generic AIO support, v3

On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:24:19AM +0100, Ingo Molnar (mingo@...e.hu) wrote:
> 
> * Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@....mipt.ru> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:51:23PM +0100, Ingo Molnar (mingo@...e.hu) wrote:
> > > 
> > > * Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@....mipt.ru> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Even having main dispatcher as epoll/kevent loop, the _whole_ 
> > > > threadlet model is absolutely micro-thread in nature and not state 
> > > > machine/event.
> > > 
> > > Evgeniy, i'm not sure how many different ways to tell this to you, but 
> > > you are not listening, you are not learning and you are still not 
> > > getting it at all.
> > > 
> > > The scheduler /IS/ a generic work/event queue. And it's pretty damn 
> > > fast. No amount of badmouthing will change that basic fact. Not exactly 
> > > as fast as a special-purpose queueing system (for all the reasons i 
> > > outlined to you, and which you ignored), but it gets pretty damn close 
> > > even for the web workload /you/ identified, and offers a user-space 
> > > programming model that is about 1000 times more useful than 
> > > state-machines.
> > 
> > Meanwhile on practiceal side:
> > via epia kevent/epoll/threadlet:
> > 
> > client: ab -c500 -n5000 $url
> > 
> > kevent:		849.72
> > epoll:		538.16
> > threadlet:
> >  gcc ./evserver_epoll_threadlet.c -o ./evserver_epoll_threadlet
> >  In file included from ./evserver_epoll_threadlet.c:30:
> >  ./threadlet.h: In function ‘threadlet_exec’:
> >  ./threadlet.h:46: error: can't find a register in class ‘GENERAL_REGS’
> >  while reloading ‘asm’
> > 
> > That particular asm optimization fails to compile.
> 
> it's not really an asm optimization but an API glue. I'm using:
> 
>  gcc -O2 -g -Wall -o evserver_epoll_threadlet evserver_epoll_threadlet.c -fomit-frame-pointer
> 
> does that work for you?

Yes, -fomit-frame-point make the deal.

In average, threadlet runs as fast as epoll. 
Just because there are _no_ rescheduling in that case.

I added a printk into __async_schedule() and started
ab -c7000 -n20000 http://192.168.4.80/ 
against slow via epia, and got only one of them.
Client is latest
../async-test-v4/evserver_epoll_threadlet


Btw, I need to admit, that I have totally broken kevent tree there - it
does not work on that machine on higher loads, so I'm investigating that
problem now.

> 	Ingo

-- 
	Evgeniy Polyakov
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