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Date:	Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:09:32 +0530
From:	Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@...ibm.com>
To:	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@....com.au>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...hat.com>,
	Zach Brown <zach.brown@...cle.com>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@....mipt.ru>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@...ilserver.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: A quick fio test (was Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, "Threadlets", generic AIO support, v3)

On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:42:11AM +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27 2007, Suparna Bhattacharya wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:45:48PM +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 26 2007, Suparna Bhattacharya wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:57:36PM +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Some more results, using a larger number of processes and io depths. A
> > > > > repeat of the tests from friday, with added depth 20000 for syslet and
> > > > > libaio:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Engine          Depth   Processes       Bw (MiB/sec)
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > libaio            1         1            602
> > > > > syslet            1         1            759
> > > > > sync              1         1            776
> > > > > libaio           32         1            832
> > > > > syslet           32         1            898
> > > > > libaio        20000         1            581
> > > > > syslet        20000         1            609
> > > > > 
> > > > > syslet still on top. Measuring O_DIRECT reads (of 4kb size) on ramfs
> > > > > with 100 processes each with a depth of 200, reading a per-process
> > > > > private file of 10mb (need to fit in my ram...) 10 times each. IOW,
> > > > > doing 10,000MiB of IO in total:
> > > > 
> > > > But, why ramfs ? Don't we want to exercise the case where O_DIRECT actually
> > > > blocks ? Or am I missing something here ?
> > > 
> > > Just overhead numbers for that test case, lets try something like your
> > > described job.
> > > 
> > > Test case is doing random reads from /dev/sdb, in chunks of 64kb:
> > > 
> > > Engine          Depth   Processes       Bw (KiB/sec)
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > libaio           200       100            2813
> > > syslet           200       100            3944
> > > libaio         20000         1            2793
> > > syslet         20000         1            3854
> > > sync (*)       20000         1            2866
> > > 
> > > deadline was used for IO scheduling, to minimize impact. Not sure why
> > > syslet actually does so much better here, looing at vmstat the rate is
> > > steady and all runs are basically 50/50 idle/wait. One difference is
> > > that the submission itself takes a long time on libaio, since the
> > > io_submit() will block on request allocation.  The generated IO pattern
> > > from each process is the same for all runs. The drive is a lousy sata
> > > that doesn't even do queuing, FWIW.
> > 
> > 
> > I tried the latest fio code with syslet v4, and my results are a little
> > different - have yet to figure out why or what to make of it.
> > I hope I have all the right pieces now.
> > 
> > This is an ext2 filesystem, SCSI AIC7xxx.
> > 
> > I used an iodepth_batch size of 8 to limit the number of ios in a single
> > io_submit (thanks for adding that parameter to fio !), like we did in
> > aio-stress.
> > 
> > Engine          Depth      Batch	Bw (KiB/sec)
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > libaio		64	   8		17,226
> > syslet		64	   8		17,620
> > libaio		20000	   8		18,552
> > syslet		20000	   8		14,935
> > 
> > 
> > Which is not bad, actually.
> 
> It's not bad for such a high depth/batch setting, but I still wonder why
> are results are so different. I'll look around for an x86 box with some
> TCQ/NCQ enabled storage attached for testing. Can you pass me your
> command line or job file (whatever you use) so we are on the same page?

Sure - I used variations of the following job file (e.g. engine=syslet-rw,
iodepth=20000).

Also the io scheduler on my system is set to Anticipatory by default.
FWIW it is a 4 way SMP (PIII, 700MHz)

; aio-stress -l -O -o3 <1GB file>
[global]
ioengine=libaio
buffered=0
rw=randread
bs=64k
size=1024m
directory=/kdump/suparna

[testfile2]
iodepth=64
iodepth_batch=8

> 
> > If I do not specify the iodepth_batch (i.e. default to depth), then the
> > difference becomes more pronounced at higher depths. However, I doubt
> > whether anyone would be using such high batch sizes in practice ...
> >
> > Engine          Depth      Batch	Bw (KiB/sec)
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > libaio		64	   default	17,429
> > syslet		64	   default	16,155
> > libaio		20000	   default	15,494
> > syslet		20000	   default	7,971
> >
> If iodepth_batch isn't set, the syslet queued io will be serialized and

I see, so then this particular setting is not very meaningful

> not take advantage of queueing. How does the job file perform with
> ioengine=sync?

Just tried it now : 9,027KiB/s

> 
> > Often times it is the application tuning that makes all the difference,
> > so am not really sure how much to read into these results.
> > That's always been the hard part of async io ...
> 
> Yes I agree, it's handy to get an overview though.

True, at least some of this helps us gain a little more understanding
about the boundaries and how to tune it to be most effective.

Regards
Suparna

> 
> -- 
> Jens Axboe

-- 
Suparna Bhattacharya (suparna@...ibm.com)
Linux Technology Center
IBM Software Lab, India

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