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Date:	Sun, 08 Apr 2007 06:21:29 -0700
From:	johnrobertbanks@...tmail.fm
To:	"Jose Celestino" <japc@...sapo.pt>
Cc:	reiserfs-list@...esys.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

Jose,
  since you clearly have nothing useful to say. Why don't you let Teddy
  talk for himself.


On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 13:48:11 +0100, "Jose Celestino" <japc@...sapo.pt>
said:
> Words by johnrobertbanks@...tmail.fm [Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 09:13:32PM
> -0700]:
> > Teddy,
> > 
> > It is a pity you don't address the full set of results, when you make
> > your snide comments.
> > 
> > Now since you have them,... why don't you make reasoned comment about
> > them.
> > 
> > You can read more here:
> > 
> 
> John,
> 
> it is not because you keep posting the same numbers over and over again
> (or is this your new signature?) that they will be more substantiated
> (hint: cpu usage).
> Just more annoying each time.
> 
> I'll remember to use reiser4 for my
> 90-percent-zero-files-no-need-for-proven-robustness-and-plenty-of-cpu-to-spare
> boxes. Thank you.
> 
> > http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm
> > 
> > .-------------------------.
> > | FILESYSTEM | TIME |DISK |
> > | TYPE       |(secs)|USAGE|
> > .-------------------------.
> > |REISER4 lzo | 1938 | 278 |
> > |REISER4 gzip| 2295 | 213 |
> > |REISER4     | 3462 | 692 |
> > |EXT2        | 4092 | 816 |
> > |JFS         | 4225 | 806 |
> > |EXT4        | 4408 | 816 |
> > |EXT3        | 4421 | 816 |
> > |XFS         | 4625 | 779 |
> > |REISER3     | 6178 | 793 |
> > |FAT32       |12342 | 988 |
> > |NTFS-3g     |10414 | 772 |
> > .-------------------------.
> > 
> > 
> > Column one measures the time taken to complete the bonnie++ benchmarking
> > test (run with the parameters bonnie++ -n128:128k:0)
> > 
> > Column two, Disk Usage: measures the amount of disk used to store 655MB
> > of raw data (which was 3 different copies of the Linux kernel sources).
> > 
> > OR LOOK AT THE FULL RESULTS:
> > 
> > .-------------------------------------------------.
> > |File         |Disk |Copy |Copy |Tar  |Unzip| Del |
> > |System       |Usage|655MB|655MB|Gzip |UnTar| 2.5 |
> > |Type         | (MB)| (1) | (2) |655MB|655MB| Gig |
> > .-------------------------------------------------.
> > |REISER4 gzip | 213 | 148 |  68 |  83 |  48 |  70 |
> > |REISER4 lzo  | 278 | 138 |  56 |  80 |  34 |  84 |
> > |REISER4 tails| 673 | 148 |  63 |  78 |  33 |  65 |
> > |REISER4      | 692 | 148 |  55 |  67 |  25 |  56 |
> > |NTFS3g       | 772 |1333 |1426 | 585 | 767 | 194 |
> > |NTFS         | 779 | 781 | 173 |   X |   X |   X |
> > |REISER3      | 793 | 184 |  98 |  85 |  63 |  22 |
> > |XFS          | 799 | 220 | 173 | 119 |  90 | 106 |
> > |JFS          | 806 | 228 | 202 |  95 |  97 | 127 |
> > |EXT4 extents | 806 | 162 |  55 |  69 |  36 |  32 |
> > |EXT4 default | 816 | 174 |  70 |  74 |  42 |  50 |
> > |EXT3         | 816 | 182 |  74 |  73 |  43 |  51 |
> > |EXT2         | 816 | 201 |  82 |  73 |  39 |  67 |
> > |FAT32        | 988 | 253 | 158 | 118 |  81 |  95 |
> > .-------------------------------------------------.
> > 
> > 
> > Each test was preformed 5 times and the average value recorded.
> > Disk Usage: The amount of disk used to store the data (which was 3
> > different copies of the Linux kernel sources).
> > The raw data (without filesystem meta-data, block alignment wastage,
> > etc) was 655MB.
> > Copy 655MB (1): Copy the data over a partition boundary.
> > Copy 655MB (2): Copy the data within a partition.
> > Tar Gzip 655MB: Tar and Gzip the data.
> > Unzip UnTar 655MB: UnGzip and UnTar the data.
> > Del 2.5 Gig: Delete everything just written (about 2.5 Gig).
> > 
> > 
> > To get a feel for the performance increases that can be achieved by
> > using compression, we look at the total time (in seconds) to run the
> > test:
> > 
> > bonnie++ -n128:128k:0 (bonnie++ is Version 1.93c)
> > 
> > .-------------------.
> > | FILESYSTEM | TIME |
> > .-------------------.
> > |REISER4 lzo |  1938|
> > |REISER4 gzip|  2295|
> > |REISER4     |  3462|
> > |EXT4        |  4408|
> > |EXT2        |  4092|
> > |JFS         |  4225|
> > |EXT3        |  4421|
> > |XFS         |  4625|
> > |REISER3     |  6178|
> > |FAT32       | 12342|
> > |NTFS-3g     |>10414|
> > .-------------------.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 22:56:32 -0400, "Theodore Tso" <tytso@....edu> said:
> > > On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 05:44:57PM -0700, johnrobertbanks@...tmail.fm
> > > wrote:
> > > > To get a feel for the performance increases that can be achieved by
> > > > using compression, we look at the total time (in seconds) to run the
> > > > test:
> > > 
> > > You mean the performance increases of writing a file which is mostly
> > > all zero's?  Yawn.....
> > > 
> > > 					- Ted
> > -- 
> >   
> >   johnrobertbanks@...tmail.fm
> > 
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