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Date:	Sat, 28 Apr 2007 08:32:32 +0200
From:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>
Subject: Re: [ext3][kernels >= 2.6.20.7 at least] KDE going comatose when
	FS is under heavy write load (massive starvation)

On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 06:25 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 08:18 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> > Actually, you don't need to apply the patch - just do
> > 
> > 	echo 5 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_ratio
> > 	echo 10 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_ratio
> 
> That seems to have done the trick.  Amarok and GUI aren't exactly speed
> demons while writeout is happening, but they are not hanging for
> eternities.

As promised, I tested with a kernel that I know for fact that I have
tested heavy IO on previously, and behavior was identically horrid, so
it's not something new that snuck in ~recently, my disk just got a _lot_
fuller in the meantime (12k mp3s munch a lot).

I also verified that I don't need to use the dirty data restrictions
with ext2, all is just peachy using stock settings.  Amarok switches
songs quickly, and GUI doesn't hang.  Behavior is that expected of a
heavily loaded IO subsystem, and is 1000% better than ext3 with my very
full disk.

Journaling is very nice, but I think I'll be much better off without it
responsiveness wise.

	-Mike

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