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Date:	Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:07:45 -0400
From:	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>
To:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
Cc:	Tim Post <tim.post@...kinetics.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>, david@...g.hm,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Friday 15 June 2007 23:44:00 Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On Jun 16, 2007, Tim Post <tim.post@...kinetics.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 23:29 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >> Tivo has two choices: either it gives
> >> users the content they want to watch, or it goes out of business. Is
> >> that legitimate enough of a reason to restrict the hardware?
> >
> > Can I submit that they could just rent the use of their machines?
>
> I don't think this would escape the wording of section 6 in GPLv3dd4:
>
>   [...] User Product is transferred to the recipient in perpetuity or
>   for a fixed term (regardless of how the transaction is
>   characterized), [...]
>
> and IMHO that's as it should be to defend the freedoms of the user.

In the case of renting a machine you can try to legislate new laws all you 
want. It doesn't make a difference. There are certain rights you don't get 
when renting something that you do when you own it.

DRH

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