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Date:	Sun, 17 Jun 2007 02:16:55 +0200
From:	Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@...nline.de>
To:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
CC:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>, david@...g.hm,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On Jun 16, 2007, Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@...nline.de> wrote:
> 
>> Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>>> On Jun 15, 2007, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What this means for the FSF goals if Tivo get up one morning and switch
>>>> their system firmware to ROM however is interesting 8)
>>> I'm not the FSF, and I don't speak for it, but it seems to me that
>>> this would be "mission accomplished".
> 
>> This is insane.  You start with a lofty ideal involving "freedom", and
>> when you end up with a meaningless technicality (and in technical terms
>> a change for the worse) you consider it a victory?
> 
> It accomplishes the mission in that everyone is on the same grounds.
> Same freedom for everyone.

See, that's the problem I have with your arguments.  "Same freedom for
everyone" is a political slogan.  It is not a reasoned thought.  "We
must stop terrorists" is also a political slogan, and the consequence
"Tivo should install ROMs so they don't have more rights than users" is
about equivalent as a victory for freedom as disallowing liquids in hand
luggage is a victory against terrorism.  Both are nonsensical
consequences of a political agenda that is applied without thought.


Bernd

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