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Date:	Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:19:37 +0200
From:	"Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@...il.com>
To:	"Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@...e.de>
Cc:	"Ivan N. Zlatev" <contact@...z.net>,
	"Michal Piotrowski" <michal.k.k.piotrowski@...il.com>,
	"Thomas Meyer" <thomas@...3r.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [2/4] 2.6.23-rc4: known regressions

On 29/08/07, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de> wrote:
> At Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:42:56 +0300,
> Ivan N. Zlatev wrote:
> >
> > On 8/29/07, Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@...il.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > ALSA
> > >
> > > Subject         : Master volume control broken
> > > References      : http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/18/46
> > > Last known good : ?
> > > Submitter       : Thomas Meyer <thomas@...3r.de>
> > > Caused-By       : Ivan N. Zlatev <contact@...z.net>
> > >                   commit 5d5d3bc3eddf2ad97b2cb090b92580e7fed6cee1
> > > Handled-By      : Ivan N. Zlatev <contact@...z.net>
> > > Status          : problem is being debugged
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am not the one to handle the issue. I have just supplied the
> > pinconfigs for the intel mac cards and assisted with logs/debug
> > information, so I happen to be more of an end user. I am not familiar
> > with the code base of the Intel HDA Codec. Takashi Iwai is the one
> > with the knowledge to fix the problem.
>
> ... but without the hardware :-<
>
> IMO, this is actually no real regression.  In the earlier verison, you
> didn't have controls for multiple outputs, thus the mixer control was
> named as Master.  Now you do have multiple individual controls, and
> thus there is no master any more, instead.  That's the trade-off.
>
Shouldn't the goal be to have both?  Multiple individual controls as
well as a Master that adjusts them all.  That would also solve Thomas'
problem.
As I see it you broke Thomas' setup and that in my book is a regression.

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