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Message-ID: <46ED86A1.4060402@pobox.com>
Date:	Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:40:17 -0400
From:	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@...ox.com>
To:	"Can E. Acar" <can.acar@...-g.com.tr>
CC:	misc@...nbsd.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Eben Moglen <moglen@...twarefreedom.org>,
	Lawrence Lessig <lessig_from_web@...ox.com>,
	"Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@...twarefreedom.org>,
	Matt Norwood <norwood@...twarefreedom.org>
Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom

Can E. Acar wrote:
> There have been complete silence from the leaders of their own
> community (Linux Kernel developers, FSF, ...) all perhaps used your

Regarding "Linux Kernel developers," false.  _I_ have posted.  ath5k, 
wireless, and net driver maintainers have all sent emails.  License and 
code fixes have been committed.

As for the FSF:  It has been repeatedly stated that the FSF has zip to 
do with this.  Nothing.  Nada.  Zero.  Zilch.  Linux != FSF.


> argument to convince themselves that this is not their problem.
> However, from an outsider point of view, this lack of silence means
> an agreement to something that is ethically and legally wrong.

You are failing to observe that changes have been made in response to 
criticism.

Given that Linux Kernel devs have responded both with code changes and 
emails, "silence" and "inaction" are provably false.

And since the changes go ath5k->linville->me->linus or 
ath5k->linville->me->davem->linus, I am a step in the approval chain.  I 
do know what I'm talking about.  :)

	Jeff



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