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Date:	Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:58:47 +0930
From:	David Newall <david@...idnewall.com>
To:	Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@...el.hist.no>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>,
	"Can E. Acar" <can.acar@...-g.com.tr>, misc@...nbsd.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Eben Moglen <moglen@...twarefreedom.org>,
	Lawrence Lessig <lessig_from_web@...ox.com>,
	"Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@...twarefreedom.org>,
	Matt Norwood <norwood@...twarefreedom.org>
Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom

Jacob Meuser wrote:
> when I see the linux community start to take credit for works they
> did not create and I see the linux community respond to warnings
> that people in the community are going overboard and jeopardizing
> the linux community, which we do all benefit from, with a more or
> less "whatever" attitude, it makes me sad.  it would be like losing
> a friend.  I don't like losing friends, so I get vocal.
>   

All very nicely said.

I'd like to add that an insult implicit in the attempt to remove the BSD 
license is that it says to the original authors, "we plan to improve 
this code, and when we do you'll never again be able to ship it as 
BSD."  They weren't the words, but that's what you get when you think to 
the future.

Although opinions seem still to be divided, I think everyone has been 
reminded that just because you can doesn't mean you should.

> I don't understand why the linux community can't seem to say,

The one shining light in this whole sorry Atheros saga is that it's now 
all history; the only people still talking about it are people not 
directly involved.  The matter could now rest...
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