linux-kernel - Re: Wasting our Freedom

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Date:	Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:15:42 -0500
From:	Marco Peereboom <slash@...reboom.us>
To:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, misc@...nbsd.org,
	Claudio Jeker <cjeker@...hard.n-r-g.com>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>,
	"Can E. Acar" <can.acar@...-g.com.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Eben Moglen <moglen@...twarefreedom.org>,
	Lawrence Lessig <lessig_from_web@...ox.com>,
	"Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@...twarefreedom.org>,
	Matt Norwood <norwood@...twarefreedom.org>
Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom

On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:56:47AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 06:29:48AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > Now if they'd fix the copyright message to only mention Reyk all would
> > be good.
> 
> It *does* mention Reyk, if you would bother to look.  The thing which
> Theo is kvetching about, and which apparently is enough to cause the
> *BSD zombies to start attacking without actually _checking_ _for_
> _themselves_ is whether or not Jiri and Nick did enough to work so
> they should have their names listed in the headers.  In other words,
> all of the megabytes and megabhytes of flamewar is over these two
> lines:
> 
> > * Copyright (c) 2006-2007 Nick Kossifidis <mickflemm@...il.com>
> > * Copyright (c) 2007 Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@...il.com>

Its simple; this is illegal.  Those two fruitcakes didn't do jack and
can therefore not claim copyright.  Would be the same as me taking the
linux kernel and adding myself to each file.  I am pretty sure some
people would be up in arms about that.

> 
> Petty, isn't it?  Let's just say it's b.s. like this which is why, 16
> years ago, I decided to work with Linux instead of BSD.

I don't make the laws and I did not break any so you call it whatever
you like.

> 
> 						- Ted
> 
> P.S.  And yes, before those two lines is:
> 
> > * Copyright (c) 2004-2007 Reyk Floeter <reyk@...nbsd.org>

So what?  you don't get a cookie for abiding the law.

> 
> and after those two lines is the BSD permission notice.

Where it belongs.  Again you don't get a cookie for doing what you are
supposed to do.

Just like you don't get a cookie for taking care of your kids; you're
supposed to do that.
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