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Date:	Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:21:42 +0800
From:	Fengguang Wu <wfg@...l.ustc.edu.cn>
To:	Torsten Kaiser <just.for.lkml@...glemail.com>
Cc:	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@...il.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	David Chinner <dgc@....com>, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: writeout stalls in current -git

On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 08:00:10PM +0100, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
> On 11/1/07, Torsten Kaiser <just.for.lkml@...glemail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/1/07, Fengguang Wu <wfg@...l.ustc.edu.cn> wrote:
> > > Thank you. Maybe we can start by the applied debug patch :-)
> >
> > Will applied it and try to recreate this.
> 
> Patch applied, used emerge to install a 2.6.24-rc1 kernel.
> 
> I had no complete stalls, but three times during the move from tmpfs
> to the main xfs the emerge got noticeable slower. There still was
> writeout happening, but as emerge prints out every file it has written
> during the pause not one file was processed.
> 
> vmstat 10:
> procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----
>  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa
>  0  1      0 3146424    332 614768    0    0   134  1849  438 2515  3  4 91  2
>  0  0      0 3146644    332 614784    0    0     2  1628  507  646  0  2 85 13
>  0  0      0 3146868    332 614868    0    0     5  2359  527 1076  0  3 97  0
>  1  0      0 3144372    332 616148    0    0    96  2829  607 2666  2  5 92  0
> -> normal writeout
>  0  0      0 3140560    332 618144    0    0   152  2764  633 3308  3  6 91  0
>  0  0      0 3137332    332 619908    0    0   114  1801  588 2858  3  4 93  0
>  0  0      0 3136912    332 620136    0    0    20   827  393 1605  1  2 98  0
> -> first stall

'stall': vmstat's output stalls for some time, or emerge stalls for
the next several vmstat lines?

>  0  0      0 3137088    332 620136    0    0     0   557  339 1437  0  1 99  0
>  0  0      0 3137160    332 620136    0    0     0   642  310 1400  0  1 99  0
>  0  0      0 3136588    332 620172    0    0     6  2972  527 1195  0  3 80 16
>  0  0      0 3136276    332 620348    0    0    10  2668  558 1195  0  3 96  0
>  0  0      0 3135228    332 620424    0    0     8  2712  522 1311  0  4 96  0
>  0  0      0 3131740    332 621524    0    0    75  2935  559 2457  2  5 93  0
>  0  0      0 3128348    332 622972    0    0    85  1470  490 2607  3  4 93  0
>  0  0      0 3129292    332 622972    0    0     0   527  353 1398  0  1 99  0
> -> second longer stall
>  0  0      0 3128520    332 623028    0    0     6   488  249 1390  0  1 99  0
>  0  0      0 3128236    332 623028    0    0     0   482  222 1222  0  1 99  0
>  0  0      0 3128408    332 623028    0    0     0   585  269 1301  0  0 99  0
>  0  0      0 3128532    332 623028    0    0     0   610  262 1278  0  0 99  0
>  0  0      0 3128568    332 623028    0    0     0   636  345 1639  0  1 99  0
>  0  0      0 3129032    332 623040    0    0     1   664  337 1466  0  1 99  0
>  0  0      0 3129484    332 623040    0    0     0   658  300 1508  0  0 100  0
>  0  0      0 3129576    332 623040    0    0     0   562  271 1454  0  1 99  0
>  0  0      0 3129736    332 623040    0    0     0   627  278 1406  0  1 99  0
>  0  0      0 3129368    332 623040    0    0     0   507  274 1301  0  1 99  0
>  0  0      0 3129004    332 623040    0    0     0   444  211 1213  0  0 99  0
>  0  1      0 3127260    332 623040    0    0     0  1036  305 1242  0  1 95  4
>  0  0      0 3126280    332 623128    0    0     7  4241  555 1575  1  5 84 10
>  0  0      0 3124948    332 623232    0    0     6  4194  529 1505  1  4 95  0
>  0  0      0 3125228    332 624168    0    0    58  1966  586 1964  2  4 94  0
> -> emerge resumed to normal speed, without any intervention from my side
>  0  0      0 3120932    332 625904    0    0   112  1546  546 2565  3  4 93  0
>  0  0      0 3118012    332 627568    0    0   128  1542  612 2705  3  4 93  0

Interesting, the 'bo' never falls to zero.

> 
> >From syslog:
> first stall:
> [  575.050000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 47259 > global 610 0 0 wc __ tw 1023 sk 0
> [  586.350000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 50465 > global 6117 0 0 wc _M tw 967 sk 0
> [  586.360000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 50408 > global 6117 0 0 wc __ tw 1022 sk 0
> [  599.900000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 53523 > global 11141 0 0 wc __ tw 1009 sk 0
> [  635.780000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 59397 > global 12757 124 0 wc __ tw 0 sk 0
> [  638.470000] mm/page-writeback.c 418 balance_dirty_pages: > emerge(6113) 1536 global 11405 51 0 wc __ tw 0 sk 0
> [  638.820000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 58373 > global 11276 48 0 wc __ tw -1 sk 0
> [  641.260000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 57348 > global 10565 100 0 wc __ tw 0 sk 0
> [  643.980000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 56324 > global 9788 103 0 wc __ tw -1 sk 0
> [  646.120000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 55299 > global 8912 6 0 wc __ tw 0 sk 0
> 
> second stall:
> [  664.040000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 48117 > global 2864 81 0 wc _M tw -13 sk 0
> [  664.400000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 47080 > global 1995 137 0 wc _M tw 176 sk 0
> [  664.510000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 46232 > global 1929 267 0 wc __ tw 880 sk 0
> cron[6927]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons && /usr/sbin/run-crons )
> [  809.560000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 49422 > global 19166 217 0 wc _M tw 380 sk 0
> [  811.720000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 48778 > global 17969 407 0 wc _M tw -4 sk 0
> [  813.880000] mm/page-writeback.c 418 balance_dirty_pages: > emerge(6113) 1537 global 16592 233 0 wc _M tw -1 sk 0
> [  814.710000] mm/page-writeback.c 418 balance_dirty_pages: find(6931) > 1537 global 16132 179 0 wc __ tw -1 sk 0
> [  814.720000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 47750 > global 16040 271 0 wc _M tw -1 sk 0
> [  815.040000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 46725 > global 15403 779 0 wc CM tw 324 sk 0
>
> the third stall happend after the emerge was finished. There still was
> ~120Mb of dirty data, but its writeout got much slower over several
> seconds.
> vmstat 10:
> procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----
>  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa
>  1  0      0 3096152    332 630424    0    0    81  1503  640 2771  5  4 91  0
>  0  0      0 3101024    332 631588    0    0   279   473  510 1281  5  2 92  1
> -> stall / slowdown starts
>  0  0      0 3147924    332 632384    0    0    78   626  449 1384  0  1 99  0
>  1  0      0 3147940    332 632384    0    0     0   611  388 1387  0  1 99  0
>  0  1      0 3147576    332 632384    0    0     0   939  449 1432  0  1 99  0
>  0  0      0 3145476    332 632384    0    0     0  3592  644  925  0  4 93  3
> -> writeout resumes full speed
>  0  0      0 3147232    332 632480    0    0     0  3108  678 1053  0  3 97  0
>  0  0      0 3146860    332 632480    0    0     0  2497  677  859  0  3 97  0
>  0  0      0 3146720    332 632480    0    0     0  2433  648  839  0  3 97  0
>  0  0      0 3147844    332 632484    0    0     0  2394  625  889  0  3 97  0
>  0  0      0 3148128    332 632484    0    0     0  2204  671  848  0  2 97  0
> 
> from syslog:
> [  848.070000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 48084 > global 13805 0 0 wc _M tw 1008 sk 0
> [  848.080000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 48068 > global 13805 0 0 wc __ tw 1020 sk 0
> [  884.090000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 61811 > global 30297 2 0 wc __ tw 862 sk 0
> [  921.760000] mm/page-writeback.c 418 balance_dirty_pages: cat(7170) > 1541 global 28113 391 0 wc __ tw -5 sk 0
> -> that cat was probably my watch cat /proc/meminfo
> -> during the stall there where no updates visible there
> [  922.190000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 76871 > global 27735 0 0 wc __ tw -5 sk 0
> [  923.550000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 75842 > global 26688 106 0 wc _M tw -1 sk 0
> [  924.940000] mm/page-writeback.c 655 wb_kupdate: pdflush(285) 74817 > global 25698 195 0 wc _M tw 0 sk 0
> 
> Apart from my normal kde desktop (no compiz) and the emerge the system was idle.

Interestingly, no background_writeout() appears, but only
balance_dirty_pages() and wb_kupdate.  Obviously wb_kupdate won't
block the process.

> If I see the complete stall again, I will post that too.
 
Thank you, could you run it with the attached new debug patch?

Fengguang

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