linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/3] ptrace_stop: remove the wrong ->group_stop

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Date:	Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:05:25 +0300
From:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@...ilserver.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] ptrace_stop: remove the wrong ->group_stop_count bookkeeping

On 12/08, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru> writes:
> 
> > ptrace_stop() decrements ->group_stop_count to "participate" in group stop.
> > This looks very wrong to me, the task can in fact decrement this counter twice.
> > If the tracee returns to the user-space before other threads complete the group
> > stop, it will notice TIF_SIGPENDING and do it again.
> 
> This is one of those interesting weird cases.  The ptrace interface remains per
> task.
> 
> So need to handle a simultaneous thread group stop and a per task stop.
> 
> 
> >
> > Another problem is that we don't set SIGNAL_STOP_STOPPED if the counter becomes
> > zero.
> >
> > I must admit, I don't undestand the reason why this code was added, it is very
> > old.
> 
> I haven't dug in enough yet to understand better, but it is my hunch we
> need to do something when we have both kinds of stop happening simultaneously.

Looking further, I think it was done to match the !is_task_stopped_or_traced()
check in do_signal_stop().

Still, I don't understand why we really need this decrement. The ptrace interface
needs only per-thread TASK_TRACED ot TASK_STOPPED, it doesn't need the completion
of the group stop. We can delay the completion of the group stop, but why this is
bad? At worse, the tracer recieves the extra CLD_STOPPED when the tracee resumes.
And do_signal_stop() probably can s/is_task_stopped_or_traced/is_task_stopped/.

OK, it is better to ignore this patch, I don't understand all implications of this
change. But this all doesn't look very good. Suppose we have a lot of threads and
the task with _TIF_SYSCALL_TRACE does system call. So ptrace_notify() decrements
the counter before syscall, after, and before the return to user-space.

Hopefully Roland can clarify.

Oleg.

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