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Date:	Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:52:07 -0800
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	Ingo Oeser <ioe-lkml@...eria.de>
CC:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Bernd Schubert <bernd-schubert@....de>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sleep before boot panic

Ingo Oeser wrote:
> On Monday 07 January 2008, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> Bernd Schubert <bernd-schubert@....de> writes:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just switched to libata (pata) on my laptop and the immediate panic made it 
>>> impossible to figure out why my boot partition wasn't available.
>>> After applying this little patch I could check boot printk output and then saw 
>>> everything was properly recognized and only scsi-disk support was missing.
>> The correct fix would be to make scroll back (and sysrq) still work
>> after panic.  It's a little more complicated, but possible (essentially
>> it needs a polled keyboard handler)
> 
> Customer: "This system could not find the root fs."
> Support: "Oh, yeah, just connect a (USB-) keyboard and scroll back."
> 
> Hmm, device detection works after panic?
> 
> I really like the "soft" panic better, where you still can operate the 
> kernel debugging features, but just have no user space supporting it.
> 

Of course, if we'd been using kinit, "soft panic" would have been done 
exclusively in userspace...

	-hpa
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