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Date:	Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:40:53 -0500
From:	Jon Masters <jonathan@...masters.org>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] driver core patches against 2.6.24


On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 01:27 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 01:05 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl> wrote:
> > 
> > > My wish is that distros would just boot without requiring an initrd. I 
> > > know how to make them for redhat and debian based distros, but the 
> > > fact that you can't (easily) cross-build them makes it a very tedious 
> > > construct.
> > 
> > all it takes for me on Fedora is to boot a modular distro kernel once, 
> > then copy the /dev to the real (persistent) /dev:
> > 
> >    mkdir /tmp2
> >    mount /dev/sda1 /tmp2
> >    cp -a /dev/* /tmp2/dev/
> > 
> > and from that point on a bzImage/vmlinuz can boot up on Fedora without 
> > any problems (as long as it has the right drivers built in), and the 
> > initrd line can be removed from grub.conf.
> 
> Yeah, I usually do the same but with a bind mount, still it would be
> grand if such things would not be needed.

Agreed. But it's not likely to be a priority - all the vendors want
completely modular kernels. But now we see what Linus wants to do,
perhaps we can try to be a bit more friendly toward that. It's not
actually rocket science, after all. I was concerned that he wanted to
use the modules in the initrd, but now I see Linus, and everyone else,
just want to do what I also secretly do, and just not use an initrd.

Isn't it funny. We all secretly hate using initrds ourselves :)

Jon.


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