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Date:	Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:33:22 -0400 (EDT)
From:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
To:	Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>
cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
	<linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexey Starikovskiy <astarikovskiy@...e.de>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH] PM: Introduce new top level
 suspend	and hibernation callbacks (rev. 2)

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Oliver Neukum wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 15:19:45 schrieb Alan Stern:

> > It's not safe for the PM core to do such things unilaterally.  The 
> > decision to unregister a device should be made by the driver or the 
> > subsystem.
> 
> Why? You can trigger it from user space via sysfs

How can you do that?

>  and in many cases
> suspending to disk will disconnect all devices on a bus,

But these disconnects aren't done by the PM core; they are done by 
individual drivers or subsystems.

> so I'd say a
> failure to resume is just a limited subcase of a device vanishing during
> sleep.

I'll go along with that.  If a device vanishes during sleep, the PM 
core isn't responsible for unregistering it -- the device's subsystem 
is.

Alan Stern

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