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Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:41:09 -0500
From:	Roger Heflin <rogerheflin@...il.com>
To:	Hans-Peter Jansen <hpj@...la.net>
CC:	Tejun Heo <htejun@...il.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-ide@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.24.3: regular sata drive resets - worrisome?

Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 30. März 2008 schrieb Tejun Heo:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
>>>>>> Should I be worried? smartd doesn't show anything suspicious on
>>>>>> those.
>>>> Can you please post the result of "smartctl -a /dev/sdX"?
>>> Here's the last smart report from two of the offending drives. As noted
>>> before, I did the hardware reorganization, replaced the dog slow 3ware
>>> 9500S-8 and the SiI 3124 with a single Areca 1130 and retired the
>>> drives for now, but a nephew already showed interest. What do you
>>> think, can I cede those drives with a clear conscience? The
>>> Hardware_ECC_Recovered values are really worrisome, aren't they?
>> Different vendors use different scales for the raw values.  The value is
>> still pegged at the highest so it could be those raw values are okay or
>> that the vendor just doesn't update value field accordingly.  My P120
>> says 0 for the raw value and 904635 for hardware ECC recovered so there
>> is some difference.  What do other non-failing drives say about those
>> values?
> 
> The only non-failing drive was sdf as it was running in standby mode in this 
> md raid 5 ensemble:
> 
> 20080323-011337-sdc.log:195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       162956700
> 20080323-011337-sdc.log:196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   253   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011337-sdc.log:197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   253   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011337-sdc.log:198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   253   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
> 20080323-011337-sdc.log:199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011338-sdd.log:195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       162520674
> 20080323-011338-sdd.log:196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   253   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011338-sdd.log:197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   253   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011338-sdd.log:198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   253   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
> 20080323-011338-sdd.log:199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011338-sde.log:195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       148429049
> 20080323-011338-sde.log:196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   253   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011338-sde.log:197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   253   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011338-sde.log:198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   253   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
> 20080323-011338-sde.log:199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011339-sdf.log:195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1559
> 20080323-011339-sdf.log:196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   253   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011339-sdf.log:197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   253   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 20080323-011339-sdf.log:198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   253   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
> 20080323-011339-sdf.log:199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
> 
>> Hmmm... If the drive is failing FLUSHs, I would expect to see elevated
>> reallocation counters and maybe some pending counts.  Aieee.. weird.
> 
> But there are no reallocations nor any pending sectors on any of them.
> 
>>>>>> It's been 4 samsung drives at all hanging on a sata sil 3124:
>>>> FLUSH_EXT timing out usually indicates that the drive is having
>>>> problem writing out what it has in its cache to the media.  There was
>>>> one case where FLUSH_EXT timeout was caused by the driver failing to
>>>> switch controller back from NCQ mode before issuing FLUSH_EXT but that
>>>> was on sata_nv.  There hasn't been any similar problem on sata_sil24.
>>> Hmm, I didn't noticed any data distortions, and if there where, they
>>> live on as copies in their new home..
>> It should have appeared as read errors.  Maybe the drive successfully
>                              ^^^^
>                              write (I guess)
>> wrote those sectors after 30+ secs timeout.
> 
> That would point to some driver issue, wouldn't it? Roger Heflin also
> experienced similar behavior with that controller, which wasn't 
> reproducible with another. 
> 
> I can offer to you rebuilding that md in a test environment, and giving 
> you access to it, if you're interested.
> 
> Anyway, thanks for caring Tejun,
> Pete
> 

Here are the errors I get, though look at it closer, I am don't appear to be 
getting the reset, just this error from time to time:

sd 9:0:0:0: [sde] 976773168 512-byte hardware sectors (500108 MB)
sd 9:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off
sd 9:0:0:0: [sde] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 9:0:0:0: [sde] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO 
or FUA
ata8.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x280000 action 0x0
ata8.00: BMDMA2 stat 0x687d8009
ata8.00: cmd 25/00:80:a7:00:1d/00:01:1d:00:00/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 196608 in
          res 51/04:8f:98:01:1d/00:00:1d:00:00/f0 Emask 0x1 (device error)
ata8.00: configured for UDMA/100
ata8: EH complete
sd 7:0:0:0: [sdd] 976773168 512-byte hardware sectors (500108 MB)
sd 7:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is off
sd 7:0:0:0: [sdd] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 7:0:0:0: [sdd] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO 
or FUA

I have 4 identical disks, with all 4 connected to the SIL controller all give 
some errors, moving 2 of the disks to a promise controller makes the errors go 
away on the 2 connected to the promise controller.   All drives are part of a 
software raid5 array.

Startup looks like this:
sata_sil 0000:00:09.0: version 2.3
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:09.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 20
sata_sil 0000:00:09.0: Applying R_ERR on DMA activate FIS errata fix
scsi7 : sata_sil
scsi8 : sata_sil
scsi9 : sata_sil
scsi10 : sata_sil
ata8: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xf8942080 ctl 0xf894208a bmdma 0xf8942000 irq 20
ata9: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xf89420c0 ctl 0xf89420ca bmdma 0xf8942008 irq 20
ata10: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xf8942280 ctl 0xf894228a bmdma 0xf8942200 irq 20
ata11: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xf89422c0 ctl 0xf89422ca bmdma 0xf8942208 irq 20

Right now I am running 2.6.23.15-80.fc7, but have also got the errors under 2.6.23.1

                                     Roger
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