linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 1/3] change clone

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Date:	Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:13:00 +0200 (CEST)
From:	"Daniel Hokka Zakrisson" <daniel@...ac.com>
To:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>
Cc:	"Andi Kleen" <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	"David C. Hansen" <haveblue@...ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, "Cedric Le Goater" <clg@...ibm.com>,
	"Containers" <containers@...ts.osdl.org>,
	"Pavel Emelyanov" <xemul@...nvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] change clone_flags type to u64

Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Andi Kleen (andi@...stfloor.org):
>> > I guess that was a development rationale.
>>
>> But what rationale? It just doesn't make much sense to me.
>>
>> > Most of the namespaces are in
>> > use in the container projects like openvz, vserver and probably others
>> > and we needed a way to activate the code.
>>
>> You could just have added it to feature groups over time.
>>
>> >
>> > Not perfect I agree.
>> >
>> > > With your current strategy are you sure that even 64bit will
>> > > be enough in the end? For me it rather looks like you'll
>> > > go through those quickly too as more and more of the kernel
>> > > is namespaced.
>> >
>> > well, we're reaching the end. I hope ! devpts is in progress and
>> > mq is just waiting for a clone flag.
>>
>> Are you sure?
>
> Well for one thing we can take a somewhat different approach to new
> clone flags.  I.e. we could extend CLONE_NEWIPC to do mq instead of
> introducing a new clone flag.  The name doesn't have 'sysv' in it,
> and globbing all ipc resources together makes some amount of sense.
> Similarly has hpa+eric pointed out earlier, suka could use
> CLONE_NEWDEV for ptys.  If we have net, pid, ipc, devices, that's a
> pretty reasonable split imo.  Perhaps we tie user to devices and get
> rid of CLONE_NEWUSER which I suspect noone is using atm (since only
> Dave has run into the CONFIG_USER_SCHED problem).  Or not.  We could
> roll uts into net, and give CLONE_NEWUTS a deprecation period.

Please don't. Then we'd need to re-add it in Linux-VServer to support
guests where network namespaces aren't used...

> -serge

-- 
Daniel Hokka Zakrisson
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