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Date:	Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:51:40 +0200
From:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Frans Pop <elendil@...net.nl>, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Richard Jonsson <richie@...erworld.net>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Subject: Re: [git pull] scheduler changes for v2.6.26


On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 21:43 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: 
> * Frans Pop <elendil@...net.nl> wrote:
> 
> > > It would be nice if you could try sched-devel/latest because it has 
> > > an improved ftrace "sched_switch" tracer where you can generate much 
> > > longer traces of this incident. Try the new /debug/trace_entries 
> > > runtime tunable.
> > 
> > I'll try to get the trace and will reply on the private thread we had. 
> > I may need additional instructions though.
> 
> you could also reply to this thread if you dont mind, so that others can 
> chime in too.
> 
> the 700-800 msecs of delays you see are very "brutal" so there must be 
> something fundamentally wrong going on here.

I'm seeing latency hits with 26.git, whereas 25 is hit free. 

   LatencyTOP version 0.3       (C) 2008 Intel Corporation

Cause                                                Maximum     Percentage
Scheduler: waiting for cpu                        436.0 msec         79.8 %
do_fork sys_vfork ptregscall_common                37.7 msec          1.5 %
blk_execute_rq scsi_execute scsi_execute_req sr_te 30.5 msec          0.2 %
blk_execute_rq scsi_execute scsi_execute_req sd_re 28.7 msec          0.6 %
msleep wakeup_rh uhci_rh_resume hcd_bus_resume gen 23.3 msec          0.3 %
blk_execute_rq scsi_execute scsi_execute_req scsi_ 23.0 msec          0.8 %
down tty_write vfs_write sys_write system_call_aft 21.9 msec          0.1 %
do_get_write_access journal_get_write_access __ext 21.8 msec          0.1 %
blk_execute_rq scsi_execute scsi_execute_req sr_te 16.5 msec          0.3 %
r_block_media_changed check_disk_change cdrom_open sr_block_open do_open




Process amarokapp (4645)
Scheduler: waiting for cpu                        436.0 msec         93.8 %
do_select core_sys_select sys_select system_call_a  4.8 msec          4.7 %
do_sys_poll sys_poll system_call_after_swapgs       4.7 msec          1.5 %

> 
> Could you first check (under sched-devel/latest) the quality of your 
> sched-clock, via running this script:
> 
>    http://people.redhat.com/mingo/cfs-scheduler/tools/watch-rq-clock.sh
> 
> if you run it, it should output ~1000 msecs periods every second:
> 
>  europe:~> watch-rq-clock.sh
>  1002.115042
>  1005.509851
>  1004.187275
>  1004.409980
>  1004.430264
>  1004.445508
> 
> if it's way too 'slow', say it only 100 msecs per second, then the 
> scheduler clock is mis-measuring time and what the scheduler thinks to 
> be a 40 msecs delay might become a 400 msecs delay.

Erm, should my Q6600 emit such?

2.6.25:
51.743501
124.292008
59.719506
268.016760
64.004011
144.113851
87.900658
116.007257
72.004509

On 26.git, I get numbers like yours, but with occasional dips down to
~700, though the latency hits don't _seem_ to be synchronous with
watch-rq-clock.sh glitchies.

	-Mike

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