Date:	Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:21:02 -0500
From:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Containers <containers@...ts.osdl.org>, clg@...ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@...nvz.org>,
	Benjamin Thery <benjamin.thery@...l.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/7] Clone PTS namespace

Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@...ssion.com):
> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com> writes:
> 
> > Quoting Serge E. Hallyn (serue@...ibm.com):
> >> Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@...ssion.com):
> >> > "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com> writes:
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> I'm hoping to be able to get back at this in the week or so as things
> >> > >> settle down from my move.  My last patches should be in my proof of
> >> > >> concept network namespace tree, if they don't show up elsewhere.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is that the tree I'd get from
> >> > >
> >> > > git-fetch
> >> > > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ebiederm/linux-2.6-netns.git
> >> > > master:ebieder.master
> >> > 
> >> > Yes.
> >> > 
> >> > > ?  So I'd add a user_ns to the struct sysfs_tag_info?
> >> > >
> >> > > If so I'll give it a whirl.
> >> > 
> >> > Sounds good.  My apologies I keep being almost on the verge
> >> > of getting someplace.
> >> 
> >> Ok I've got the sysfs relevant patches ported to 2.6.25, and am looking
> >> at how to extend it to handle /sys/kernel/uids.  You have tagging tied
> >> intimately to struct class.  So the question is should I generalize the
> >> taggint to deal with kobjects instead, or create a struct class user
> >> and make /sys/kernel/uids a symlink to /sys/class/user/uids?
> >
> > Heh, never mind, I was thinking class was a kobject class, not a device
> > class  :)  So I'll just have to generalize tagging.
> 
> Yes.  You just need a way to get the tags there.
> 
> At the level of sysfs it is fairly general.
> Getting through the kobject layer is a different story.

Heh, well I tried several approaches - adding tag_ops to kset, to ktype,
etc.  Finally ended up just calling sysfs_enable_tagging on
/sys/kernel/uids when that is created.  It's now working perfectly.

> I suspect since you are working on this and I seem to be stuck
> in molasses at the moment it makes sense to figure out what it
> will take to handle the uid namespace before pushing these
> patches again.

I had ported your patches to 2.6.25, but Benjamin in the meantime ported
them to 2.6.25-mm1.  Since that's closer to the -net tree it's a more
useful port, so I'll let him post his patchset.  Then I'll send the
userns patch on top of that.  While I'm not actually able to send
network traffic over a veth dev (I probably am still not setting it up
right), I am able to pass veth devices into network namespaces, and the
user namespaces are properly handled.

I believe Benjamin did notice a problem with some symlinks not existing,
and I think we want one more patch on top of yours removing the
hold_net() from sysfs_mount, which I don't think was what you really
wanted to do.  By simply removing that, if all tasks in a netns go away,
the netns actually goes away and a lookup under a bind-mounted copy of
its /sys/class/net is empty.

Anyway the patches should be hitting the list next week.

> Taking a quick look and having a clue what we will need to
> do for a theoretical device namespace is also a possibility.

I'm not sure I'm familiar enough with the kobject/class/sysfs/device
relationships yet to comment on that.  It doesn't look like it should
really be a problem, though simply adding tags to every directory
under /sys/class (/sys/class/tty, /sys/class/usb_device, etc) doesn't
seem like necessarily the nicest way to go...

thanks,
-serge
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