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Date:	Wed, 7 May 2008 13:24:25 -0600
From:	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...i.umich.edu>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1

On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 12:01:28PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> The thing is, we definitely are interested to see whether it's the BKL or 
> some other semaphore that is the problem. But the best way to test that is 
> to just try my patch that *guarantees* that the BKL doesn't have any 
> semaphore behaviour AT ALL.
> 
> Could it be something else entirely? Yes. We know it's semaphore- related. 
> We don't know for a fact that it's the BKL itself. There could be other 
> semaphores that are that hot. It sounds unlikely, but quite frankly, 
> regardless, I don't really see the point of your patches.
> 
> If Yanmin tries my patch, it is *guaranteed* to show something. It either 
> shows that it's about the BKL (and that we absolutely have to do the BKL 
> as something _else_ than a generic semaphore), or it shows that it's not 
> about the BKL (and that _all_ the patches in this discussion are likely 
> pointless).

One patch I'd still like Yanmin to test is my one from yesterday which
removes the BKL from fs/locks.c.

http://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=121009123427437&w=2

Obviously, it won't help if the problem isn't the BKL.

-- 
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"Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this
operating system, but compare it to ours.  We can't possibly take such
a retrograde step."
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