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Date:	Fri, 16 May 2008 09:13:41 -0400
From:	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>
To:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, jkosina@...e.cz,
	linux-input@...r.kernel.org, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Input: add appleir USB driver

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:59:50PM +0200, Tino Keitel wrote:
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 14:35:54 -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 07:49:39PM +0200, Tino Keitel wrote:
> > 
> > > From the user's point of view: There are no official kernel release
> > > notes about what devices are added/removed to/from the various
> > > ignore lists and blacklists. The kernel doesn't produce any output
> > > about devices that are ignored or blacklisted in may cases (and
> > > also this one). The user has no indication why his LIRC setup stops
> > > working with the new kernel.
> > >
> > 
> > Not sure what we can do here... The only thing I guess is better
> > commit message mentioning LIRC setup concerns.
> 
> Who reads commit messages? I think it should be easy to add some
> printk()s saying something like "skipping device foo, because it is on
> the ignore list".

Then every user of Wacom tablet will be alarmed and ask "why my tablet
is ignored". The only thing that I can think of is making that quirk
compiled in depending on whether CONFIG_APPLEIR is selected.

> 
> > > Even if all LIRC users switch to the appleir driver, what about
> > > people who use a learning remote to have more than 6 keys that the
> > > Apple remote has? Does this work at all? After a quick look at the
> > > key handling it seems to me that the codes of the 6 keys are
> > > hardcoded in the driver. So a learning remote with more keys
> > > wouldn't work anymore.
> > >
> > 
> > We'll have to adjust the driver to allow changing keymap on a
> > per-device base from userspace. That's pretty easy actually.
> 
> I'm not talking about the keymap that is visible in userspace, but
> about the keys on the remote that are detected by the kernel. The Apple
> remote has only 6 keys, and they are mapped in a static array:
> 
> #define MAX_KEYS       8
> static int keymap[MAX_KEYS] = ...
> 
> With the LIRC driver, I can use a learning remote with much more keys,
> and then just use irrecord to create a LIRC config file.
> 

Does the learning remote have the same VID/PID as AppleIr? If not I am
not sure why you are btringing it here.

-- 
Dmitry
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