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Date:	Tue, 20 May 2008 03:13:45 +0300
From:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc:	Harvey Harrison <harvey.harrison@...il.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] asm-generic/int-ll64.h: always provide __{s,u}64

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 04:51:53PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>>>
>>> If it is going to be unconditionally offered, we could get rid of
>>> __BYTEORDER_HAS_U64__ as a next step.  Unless there is something I've
>>> missed.
>>
>> Why do we need the byteorder headers in userspace at all?
>>
>
> Because Linux-specific software has depended on them for over 15 years  
> (they are a much better API than anything POSIX provides.)  We can't  
> just yank them, and so it's better if they actually work.
> 
> Yes, you can argue it should be glibc's job to provide them, but well,  
> why duplicate work when we already have a nicely working set.

The worst thing is how many CONFIG_'s they currently leak to userspace.

And e.g. the versions in the x86 header are therefore not the fastest 
ones (unless the userspace software #define's CONFIG_X86_BSWAP)...

> 	-hpa

cu
Adrian

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