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Date:	Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:55:26 -0400
From:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
CC:	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@....eng.br>,
	Frans Pop <elendil@...net.nl>, arjan@...radead.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, dwmw2@...radead.org,
	alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT *] Allow request_firmware() to be satisfied from in-kernel,
 use it in more drivers.

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Frans Pop wrote:
>>>> If I were able to compile firmware into the modules, the problem would be
>>>> solved in one go.
>>> And this thread would have been shorter, even. I hope someone decides to
>>> write that support instead of complaining ;-)
>> I've volunteered -- but if Linus and David will reject my code out of hand,
>> there is not much point in writing it.
> 
> Quite frankly, I don't think it's something to reject out of hand, but it 
> does sound pretty damn stupid.
> 
> Why compile them into the module, when that's just the _inflexible_ model?

Because it works today.

Because that is what people and their scripts expect, today.

Because people should not be forced to fix all their firmware-related 
breakage immediately, just to boot 2.6.27.


> I'm not seeing why you cannot accept change.

It is highly feasible to do the change without breaking stuff and 
removing choice.

Beer can be great tasting AND less filling.

	Jeff


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