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Date:	Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:55:54 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	vatsa@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, efault@....de, mingo@...e.hu,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Commit 76a2a6ee8a0660a29127f05989ac59ae1ce865fa breaks
	PXA270 (at least)?

On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 09:10 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 23:56 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 03:46:05PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:31:05 +0100
> > > Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > But then some bright spark thought it would be a good idea to get
> > > > rid of printk_clock().
> > > 
> > > <does git-log, searches for printk_clock>
> > > 
> > >   commit 86faf39d0fc04272b05fab1db6d683f3ac7199d1
> > >   Author: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
> > >   Date:   Fri Jan 25 21:07:59 2008 +0100
> > >   
> > >       sched: remove printk_clock references from ia64
> > >       
> > >       remove remaining printk_clock references from ia64.
> > >       
> > >       Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
> > >   
> > >   commit b842271fbb9c8b5fd0e1c3e1895a3b67ba5bcc54
> > >   Author: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
> > >   Date:   Fri Jan 25 21:07:59 2008 +0100
> > >   
> > >       sched: remove printk_clock()
> > >       
> > >       printk_clock() is obsolete - it has been replaced with cpu_clock().
> > >       
> > >       Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
> > >   
> > > 
> > > That's it?  It rates a 0.5/10 for changelogging :(
> > > 
> > > Looking further on...
> > > 
> > >   commit e97126cd9056b3b42cdc862ace2ed66f8026f55b
> > >   Author: Russell King <rmk@...-67.arm.linux.org.uk>
> > >   Date:   Mon Jan 8 19:49:12 2007 +0000
> > >   
> > >       [ARM] Provide basic printk_clock() implementation
> > >       
> > >       Current sched_clock() implementations on ARM cause unbootable kernels
> > >       with PRINTK_TIME support enabled.  To avoid this, provide a basic
> > >       printk_clock() implementation which avoids sched_clock() being called
> > >       before the page tables have been set up.
> > >   
> > > 
> > > which I assume is why arm is crashing again?
> > 
> > Precisely - Ingo has effectively progressively backed out my bug fix
> > in a round-about manner by making printk require a working sched_clock
> > again.
> > 
> > > Really, I think arch-overrideable printk_clock() was a good idea. 
> > > printk is just _special_.  It's called wildly early and it is called in
> > > all conceivable contexts and it just must work no matter what.  It's
> > > totally understandable that an architecture would need to override
> > > printk's timestamp generator.
> > 
> > That's one solution, the other is to have that commit reverted.  I
> > don't really mind which, only that we have a solution ASAP so that
> > the current popular ARM SoCs have a bootable kernel again.
> 
> Can't you make sched_clock() return 0 when its called before its up and
> running? Otherwise - 

> perhaps you can play with the location of
> sched_clock_init(). cpu_clock() will return 0 before that.

Sorry - that's only relevant for HAVE_UNSTABLE_SCHED_CLOCK and x86 seems
to be the only one using that (which just shows the platforms quality
</sarcasm>).



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