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Date:	Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:38:54 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>
To:	Mike Travis <travis@....com>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@....com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] x86_64 UV: Use blinking LED for heartbeat display

On Tue 2008-08-26 13:53:48, Mike Travis wrote:
> Pavel Machek wrote:
> >> * Mike Travis <travis@....com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +#ifdef CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_WATCHDOG
> >>> +static void uv_display_heartbeat(void)
> >>> +{
> >>> +	int cpu;
> >>> +
> >>> +	uv_hub_info->led_heartbeat_count = nr_cpu_ids;
> >>> +
> >>> +	for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
> >>> +		struct uv_hub_info_s *hub = uv_cpu_hub_info(cpu);
> >>> +
> >>> +		if (hub->led_heartbeat_count > 0) {
> >>> +			uv_set_led_bits_on(cpu, LED_CPU_BLINK,
> >>> +						LED_CPU_HEARTBEAT);
> >>> +			--hub->led_heartbeat_count;
> >>> +		}
> >> this too is a bad idea. Imagine 16K cores and assume that each such 
> >> iteration takes a few usecs (we write cross CPU) and you've got a 
> >> GHz-ish CPU. That can easily be _milliseconds_ of delay (or more) - and 
> >> in a function (the clocksource watchdog) that is all about precise 
> >> timings.
> >>
> >> It is also very non-preemptable.
> > 
> > LED subsystem already has nice heartbeat trigger.
> > 									Pavel
> 
> From Documentation/leds-class.txt:

> Future Development
> ==================
> 
> At the moment, a trigger can't be created specifically for a single LED.
> There are a number of cases where a trigger might only be mappable to a
> particular LED (ACPI?). The addition of triggers provided by the LED driver
> should cover this option and be possible to add without breaking the
> current interface.

I don't think this affects you.

> --
> The SGI system has a set of leds per cpu, and the goal is that the leds
> display heartbeat and "idle-ness" information specific to that cpu.  At
> first glance I don't see this capability in the LED subsystem.  Am I
> missing something?

Set the heartbeat trigger to the led you care about. Should be doable
with simple echo to /sys after you implement your leds properly.

> Additionally, the 8 leds are written as one byte with each led being
> full on or full off.  It seems to be a big overhead to support the led
> class  since I'd have to kluge together some means of sharing the current
> led register value [we really don't want to have to read the current reg
> value before updating a single led.]

Big overhead? Just use shadow register of led state in ram.

> But I will definitely look at the led_heartbeat_function more closely.
> 
> Any advice gladly welcomed!

You still did not cc LED developers.
									Pavel
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