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Date:	Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:19:45 -0700
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Dave Airlie <airlied@...il.com>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	jesse.brandeburg@...el.com
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.27-rc8

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:21:02 -0700 (PDT)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > 
> > If it is X related then its both a kernel + X server issue, the
> > e1000e driver opens the barn door, the X server drives the horses
> > through it.
> 
> Are you sure? There was a mandriva report abou NVM corruption on an
> e100 too (that one apparently just caused PXE failure, the networking
> worked fine).
> 
> So I wonder if it's _purely_ X-server-related, adn the reason people
> blame 2.6.27-rc1 is just timing of some X update and then people just
> look at the kernel beceuse the 'network card failed' looks so
> kernel-related.
> 
> The reason I mention that is right now it looks like the distros are
> just running around disabling the e1000e module, or perhaps
> downgrading it. Which may not even work!


btw, we're also working on making some parts of the kernel more robust
against certain types of bugs; for example the ioremap checks and sysfs
resource checks. There's a set of checks and API changes we can do to
make it less likely that drivers end up doing bad stuff; but that's
obviously more for 2.6.28 than for .27



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