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Date:	Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:50:26 -0700
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Cc:	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Give kjournald a IOPRIO_CLASS_RT io priority

On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:43:53 -0700 Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org> wrote:

> > [  517.067572]  [<c042ee64>] warn_on_slowpath+0x41/0x65
> > [  517.067652]  [<c070ec83>] io_schedule+0x77/0xb0
> > [  517.067659]  [<c04abc72>] sync_buffer+0x33/0x37
> > [  517.067666]  [<c070f010>] __wait_on_bit_lock+0x34/0x5e
> > [  517.067682]  [<c070f0e5>] out_of_line_wait_on_bit_lock+0xab/0xb3
> > [  517.067707]  [<c04abfa1>] __lock_buffer+0x24/0x2a
> > [  517.067715]  [<c04dd7fc>] do_get_write_access+0x64/0x3b1
> > [  517.067743]  [<c04ddb64>] journal_get_write_access+0x1b/0x2a
> > [  517.067752]  [<c04da374>] __ext3_journal_get_write_access+0x19/0x3c
> > [  517.067761]  [<c04cf672>] ext3_reserve_inode_write+0x34/0x68
> > [  517.067769]  [<c04cf6d5>] ext3_mark_inode_dirty+0x2f/0x46
> > [  517.067777]  [<c04cf7f7>] ext3_dirty_inode+0x53/0x67
> > [  517.067784]  [<c04a7bed>] __mark_inode_dirty+0x29/0x144
> > [  517.067794]  [<c049e60f>] file_update_time+0x80/0xa9
> > [  517.067803]  [<c046b66c>] __generic_file_aio_write_nolock+0x2f0/0x41b
> > [  517.067842]  [<c046bf0d>] generic_file_aio_write+0x5a/0xb7
> > [  517.067850]  [<c04cdc65>] ext3_file_write+0x1a/0x89
> > [  517.067858]  [<c048da41>] do_sync_write+0xab/0xe9
> > [  517.067896]  [<c048e302>] vfs_write+0x8a/0x12e
> > [  517.067903]  [<c048e43f>] sys_write+0x3b/0x60
> > [  517.067910]  [<c0403b0b>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x2f
> > [  517.067919]  =======================
> > [  517.067923] ---[ end trace de523043f88bd9a7 ]---  
> 
> > That's the one - the lock_buffer() in do_get_write_access().  It's a
> > major contention site and it'd be a major win if we could fix it.
> > Even if we resorted to some nasty thing like taking a temp copy of the
> > buffer's contents.
> 
> I also notice it's part of "file_update_time". Do we really need to go all the way 
> down to this level of synchronicity for that?

Well, we've tossed that around many times but never implemented it. 
Once you get into the details it gets a bit nasty.  Need to keep the
dirtiness state in the VFS (or fs) inode, and going backwards from a
plain old buffer_head at commit time isn't possible.  We usually
tempfixed the problem by adding increasingly fancy ways of not doing the
atime update at all.

Of course, fixing this running-vs-committing contention point would fix
a lot more things than just atime updates.

> (I also randomly wonder if we, in the write path, dirty the inode twice, once for size once for item, and
> if we then also reserve two slots in the journal for that.....

That shouldn't be the case - once we have write access to the buffer it
remains freely modifiable for the rest of the transaction period.  I
think.

> but I'm showing
> my total ignorance of JBD internals here)

I'm going on senile memories of JDB five years ago, but the concepts
didn't change much.
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