linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/7] ide: locking improvements

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:53:00 +0200
From:	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>
To:	petkovbb@...il.com
Cc:	Robert Hancock <hancockr@...w.ca>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@...il.com>,
	linux-ide@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] ide: locking improvements

On Sat, Oct 11 2008, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > >From my perspective the main gain of these patches is the increased
> > maintainability and sanity of the code, scalability improvements are
> > just an added bonus.
> 
> and better code/improved scalability is a bad thing because... ?!

It's a bad thing because nobody on earth cares about IDE scalability,
from a performance POV a modern SATA controller is just better on
several levels. I don't think anybody cares about IDE scaling on 8-16
cores or more, simply because NOBODY is using IDE on such systems.

As such, trying to improve locking is a pointless exercise. And that is
a bad thing, because code change invariably brings in code bugs. Then
see previous mail on lack of coverage testing, and it can naturally be
harmful.

> > > rather like putting makeup on a corpse to me..
> 
> so _NOT_ true.

Depends on what you think is the corpse. Since IDE is essentially dead
and frozen, it IS a corpse and the phrase is then very appropriate. This
is not a personal jab at the IDE guys and does not reflect on the
(mostly) good work they do, just a reflection on the state of IDE in
general.

-- 
Jens Axboe

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/