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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:01:53 +0530
From: Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Suresh B Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@...el.com>,
Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@...el.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@...ibm.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Vatsa <vatsa@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Gautham R Shenoy <ego@...ibm.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
David Collier-Brown <davecb@....com>,
Tim Connors <tconnors@...ro.swin.edu.au>,
Max Krasnyansky <maxk@...lcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 5/5] sched: activate active load balancing in
new idle cpus
* Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl> [2008-11-11 18:21:50]:
> On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 22:34 +0530, Vaidyanathan Srinivasan wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl> [2008-11-11 14:47:15]:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 00:03 +0530, Vaidyanathan Srinivasan wrote:
> > > > Active load balancing is a process by which migration thread
> > > > is woken up on the target CPU in order to pull current
> > > > running task on another package into this newly idle
> > > > package.
> > > >
> > > > This method is already in use with normal load_balance(),
> > > > this patch introduces this method to new idle cpus when
> > > > sched_mc is set to POWERSAVINGS_BALANCE_WAKEUP.
> > > >
> > > > This logic provides effective consolidation of short running
> > > > daemon jobs in a almost idle system
> > > >
> > > > The side effect of this patch may be ping-ponging of tasks
> > > > if the system is moderately utilised. May need to adjust the
> > > > iterations before triggering.
> > >
> > > OK, I'm so not getting this patch..
> > >
> > > if normal newly idle balancing fails that means the other runqueue has
> > > only a single task on it (or some other really stubborn stuff), so then
> > > you go move that one task that is already running, from one cpu to
> > > another.
> > >
> > > _why_?
> > >
> > > The only answer I can come up with is that you prefer one cpu's
> > > idle-ness over another - which makes sense, as you try to get whole
> > > packages idle.
> >
> > Your answer is correct. We want to move that one task from a non-idle
> > cpu to this cpu that is just going to be idle.
> >
> > This is the same method used to move task in load_balance(), I have
> > extended it for load_balance_newidle() to make the consolidation
> > faster at sched_mc=2.
> >
> >
> > > But I'm not seeing where that package logic is hidden..
> >
> >
> > The package logic comes from find_busiest_group(). If there are no
> > imbalance, then find_busiest_group() will return NULL. However when
> > sched_mc={1,2} then find_busiest_group() will select a group
> > from which a running task may be pulled to this cpu in order to make
> > the other package idle. If there is no opportunity to make a package
> > idle and if there are no imbalance, then find_busiest_group() will
> > return NULL and no action will be taken in load_balance_newidle().
> >
> > Under normal task pull operation due to imbalance, there will be more
> > than one task in the source run queue and move_tasks() will succeed.
> > ld_moved will be true and the active balance code will not be
> > triggered.
> >
> > If we enter a scenario where we are moving the only running task from
> > another cpu, then this should have been suggested by
> > find_busiest_group's sched_mc balance logic and thus moving that task
> > will potentially freeup the source package.
> >
> > Thanks for the careful review.
>
> Ah, right, thanks!
>
> Could you clarify this by adding a comment to this effect right before
> the added code?
Sure. Will add detailed comments.
--Vaidy
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