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Date:	Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:57:09 +0100
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>
To:	Robert Love <rlove@...ve.org>
Cc:	Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@...emap.net>, mtk.manpages@...il.com,
	linux-api@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Subject: Re: [take 3] Use pid in inotify events.

On Fri 2008-11-21 09:30:38, Robert Love wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@...emap.net> wrote:
> 
> > Critics without suggestions is useless. What did you try to say here?
> > You you believe it should be done in a different way, please tell us how
> > you see this should be implemented.
> 
> Pavel has the bedside manner of a T-Rex, but he is right.

Heh. Will attach T-Rex to next email.

> Your solution needs to be (a) generally applicable and useful, with an
> (b) elegant and clean API, which (c) does not break ABI or API.
> 
> Overloading the cookie field is not the way to go. Finding ways to
> extend the API through inotify_init might be--you will have even
> higher hurdles of "do we really need this" though.
> 
> John & I intentionally did not add the pid field when writing inotify
> for reasons of security and questionable need. It also stinks to have
> to add a pid field to the event structure if that field is seldom
> used.

...plus the permission check was quite strange. We don't normally try
to hide PIDs, and 'equal uid' is very non-standard test. can_ptrace()
is normally used for such stuff...

								Pavel

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