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Date:	Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:14:24 -0500
From:	"Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@...glemail.com>
To:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>
Cc:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-man@...r.kernel.org,
	"Kirill Korotaev" <dev@...nvz.org>,
	"Herbert Poetzl" <herbert@...hfloor.at>,
	"Andrey Savochkin" <saw@...ru>,
	"Subrata Modak" <subrata@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: CLONE_NEWUTS documentation

Hi Serge,

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Serge E. Hallyn <serge@...lyn.com> wrote:
> Quoting Michael Kerrisk (mtk.manpages@...glemail.com):
>> Serge, Eric,
>>
>> Below is a patch to document the CLONE_NEWUTS flag that was
>> added in 2.6.19.
>
> Thanks for writing this.

Thanks for replying ;-).

>> Could you please review and let me know of improvements
>> or inaccuracies?
>>
>> By the way, does anyone know where the UTS name in the uname()
>> API comes from? My best guess is that it's from Unix Timesharing
>> System, but I don't know this for sure.
>
> That sounds plausible - I've wondered myself and even googled a
> bit, but not found an answer.  I suppose we might need to ask
> Linus, or check one of the git repos that goes back to the early
> 90s and see who created the struct.

Oh -- "utsname" as a string (used in the uname() API) way predates Linux.

>> diff --git a/man2/clone.2 b/man2/clone.2
>> index 7212332..80f9caf 100644
>> --- a/man2/clone.2
>> +++ b/man2/clone.2
>> @@ -341,6 +340,33 @@ configuration option and that the process be privileged
>>  This flag can't be specified in conjunction with
>>  .BR CLONE_THREAD .
>>  .TP
>> +.BR CLONE_NEWUTS " (since Linux 2.6.19)"
>> +If
>> +.B CLONE_NEWUTS
>> +is set, then create the process in a new UTS namespace.
>
> And the new UTS namespace will initially be identical as the
> parent - same hostname and domainname.

Yes, it's a good idea to make that clear.  I've added some words to cover that.

>> +If this flag is not set, then (as with
>> +.BR fork (2)),
>> +the process is created in the same UTS namespace as
>> +the calling process.
>> +This flag is intended for the implementation of control groups.
>
> I'm not sure Eric was sufficiently clear - this flag is intended
> for the implementation of virtual server functionality and maybe
> checkpoint/restart (though I'm not sure any apps will care about
> being able to reset the hostname on restart :)
> It's not that you have to call it 'virtual server functionality',
> just that 'control groups' is definately not right.
>
> Maybe 'lightweight containers'?  "lightweight virtual servers'?

I just made it "containers".  Is that okay?

Cheers,

Michael

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