lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:03:00 +1030
From:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
To:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: local_add_return

On Tuesday 16 December 2008 00:17:35 Steven Rostedt wrote:
> Shouldn't local_add_return be a way for archs that can increment a memory 
> location atomically against interrupts to use that infrastructure? It can 
> simply fall back to atomic_add_return for those archs that do not have 
> a lesser equivalent of atomic_add_return.

local_t was originally introduced (but actually never used for) the
SNMP counters.  They use two counters to avoid atomics, but as the ancient
comment says:

/* 
 * FIXME: On x86 and some other CPUs the split into user and softirq parts
 * is not needed because addl $1,memory is atomic against interrupts (but 
 * atomic_inc would be overkill because of the lock cycles). Wants new 
 * nonlocked_atomic_inc() primitives -AK
 */ 
#define DEFINE_SNMP_STAT(type, name)	\
	__typeof__(type) *name[2]

Then last year Mathieu sent (and Andrew accepted) a "rich set of atomic
operations", including excellent documentation "local_ops.txt".  Except
he thought they were atomics, so treated them accordingly.  Also, there
were no users (you're now the only one).

But if these new operations are to become the norm, it changes how archs
should implement local_t.  eg. trivalue becomes less attractive, atomic_long
more.  x86 has its own implementation so doesn't have these issues.

Now, I posted a benchmark patch before for archs to test.  I'm interested
in Sparc64.  Does any arch win from using multiple counters?  PowerPC has
soft interrupt disable, so that solution wins over atomic_long_t for them.

Cheers,
Rusty.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ