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Date:	Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:52:27 +0100
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>
To:	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>
Cc:	"Brian J. Murrell" <brian@...erlinx.bc.ca>,
	linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: suspend/resume fails on second attempt in LNXVIDEO:00

On Tue 2008-12-16 20:53:35, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 06:07:15PM +0000, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:37:46 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > 
> > > I seem to be missing the original message, but: no, s2ram doesn't exist
> > > in Ubuntu because pm-utils handles that role.
> > 
> > Well, that's *their* argument but lots of people think otherwise.  There 
> > appears to be no shortage of people for whom pm-utils does NOT work yet 
> > s2ram does.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uswsusp/+bug/134238
> 
> The right answer to "This piece of software contains bugs" is not 
> "Provide two pieces of software with the same features but different 
> bugs". The only real functional difference between the two is that

Yes, and that's why pm-utils should die: they have design problems
(depend on hal, can't be pagelocked, unusable for suspend debugging).
									Pavel
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