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Date:	Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:38:38 +1100
From:	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	sam@...nborg.org, jaswinderlinux@...il.com, khc@...waw.pl,
	jaswinder@...nel.org, arnd@...db.de, mingo@...e.hu,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: why usr/include/linux/if_frad.h is required

On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:15:04 -0800 (PST)
David Miller <davem@...emloft.net> wrote:

> From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:33:10 +0100
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:20:17AM +0530, Jaswinder Singh Rajput wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...waw.pl> wrote:
> > > > Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@...nel.org> writes:
> > > >
> > > >> usr/include/linux/if_frad.h is covered with CONFIG_DLCI from many years
> > > >> and no body is complaining about it so it means no body is using it.
> > > >>
> > > >> So should we need to drop #if / #endif pair or the whole file from
> > > >> userspace.
> > > >
> > > > I think the file. "Empty file exported to userspace", long unused. We
> > > > can also have it back there, and it being not exported is an indicator
> > > > that it's not used. I guess the #ifdef __KERNEL__ can be removed, too.
> > > 
> > > I will definately define #ifdef __KERNEL__ but I am also curious after
> > > defining it there is no point of making empty
> > > usr/include/linux/if_frad.h
> > 
> > Googling a bit did not turn up _any_ non-kernel hits that has relevance.
> > So based on the information given in this thread I strongly
> > suggest to drop the export of this header.
> 
> Sure, but on the other hand this makes all of the userland APIs
> essentially inaccessible and undefined.
> 
> I bet Sangoma's internal tools reference this stuff.
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There are no references if_frad.h in the version of Sangoma (out of tree) code
that we use in Vyatta. 
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