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Date:	Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:29:41 -0500
From:	Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@...stal.dyndns.org>
To:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	ltt-dev@...ts.casi.polymtl.ca, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Bryan Wu <cooloney@...nel.org>,
	uclinux-dist-devel@...ckfin.uclinux.org
Subject: Re: [ltt-dev] [RFC git tree] Userspace RCU (urcu) for Linux
	(repost)


* Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
[...]
> diff --git a/urcu.c b/urcu.c
> index f2aae34..a696439 100644
> --- a/urcu.c
> +++ b/urcu.c
> @@ -99,7 +99,8 @@ static void force_mb_single_thread(pthread_t tid)
>  	 * BUSY-LOOP.
>  	 */
>  	while (sig_done < 1)
> -		smp_rmb();	/* ensure we re-read sig-done */
> +		barrier();	/* ensure compiler re-reads sig-done */
> +				/* cache coherence guarantees CPU re-read. */

OK, this is where I think our points of view differ. Please refer to
http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/18/299.

Basically, cpu_relax() used in the Linux kernel has an
architecture-specific implementation which *could* include a smp_rmb()
if the architecture doesn't notice writes done by other CPUs. I think
Blackfin is the only architecture currently supported by the Linux
kernel which defines cpu_relax() as a smp_mb(), because it does not have
cache coherency.

Therefore, I propose that we create a memory barrier macro which is
defined as a 
  barrier()   when the cpu has cache coherency
  cache flush when the cpu does not have cache coherency and is
              compiled with smp support.

We could call that

  smp_wmc() (for memory-coherency or memory commit)
  smp_rmc()
  smp_mc()

It would be a good way to identify the location where data exchange
between memory and the local cache are is required in the algorithm.
What do you think ?

Mathieu

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