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Date:	Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:12:16 -0800
From:	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>
To:	Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@...stal.dyndns.org>
CC:	mrubin@...gle.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Pekka Paalanen <pq@....fi>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	md@...gle.com, Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@...il.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	ltt-dev@...ts.casi.polymtl.ca,
	Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@...ux360.ro>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Martin Bligh <mbligh@...gle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [ltt-dev] [RFC patch 29/41] LTTng menus

Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Randy Dunlap (randy.dunlap@...cle.com) wrote:
>> Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>> * Randy Dunlap (randy.dunlap@...cle.com) wrote:
>>>> Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <<attachment :(>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +menuconfig LTT
>>>> +	bool "Linux Trace Toolkit Next Generation (LTTng)"
>>>> +	depends on EXPERIMENTAL
>>>> +	select MARKERS
>>>> +	select TRACEPOINTS
>>>> +	default y
>>>>
>>>> Not default 'y', please.
>>>>
>>> OK, so default n it is. But I plan to leave the main menu "sub-features" as
>>> default y, given that people get the standard features when they choose
>>> to enable the tracer. Hopefully this is ok ?
>> Sure, as long as it just enables viewing the menu and not adding
>> code to a growing kernel.
>>

I see what you mean now.  Thanks for the details.

> 
> I want to be sure to understand your point. Would be following be OK ?
> 
> Menu [ ] Linux Trace Toolkit Next Generation (LTTng)  --->  (default n)
> 
> Within this menu, the following options enable various tracer modules,
> some of which are typically needed, except in some very specific tracer
> use :
> 
> < >   Linux Trace Toolkit Lock-Protected Data Relay (default n)
>                (default y is planned to be used for the lockless data
>                relay module, which is not posted as part of this patchset)
> [ ]   Debug check for random access in ltt relay buffers (default n)
> <*>   Linux Trace Toolkit Serializer (default y)
> -*-   Linux Trace Toolkit Custom Serializer (default y)
> -*-   Linux Trace Toolkit Trace Controller (default m)
> <*>   Linux Trace Toolkit Tracer (default y)
> [ ]   Align Linux Trace Toolkit Traces (default n, selected of
>         !HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS)
> [ ]   Add event size field to LTT events for tracer debugging (default n)
> <M>   Support logging events from userspace (default m)
> [*]   Support trace extraction from crash dump (default y)
> [*]   Linux Trace Toolkit Kprobes Support (default y)
> 
> I understand from your answer above that just enabling the "LTTng"
> submenu should not activate any of these items, am I correct ?

Ideally one wouldn't add bloat to the kernel, but if someone enables
the top-level menu item, I'm OK with enabling others under it.

(not that we all consider the same things to be bloat ;)

-- 
~Randy
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